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Nice upgrade (absolutely no offense intended!)

Disclaimer: no value judgements are hereby expressed towards the consignee, auction house, PCGS, or the coin industry in general. I just think it's fun and a little educational to watch coins move around to different holders, changing their perceived value as a result. (whew)

When this 1894/1894 PCGS MS64RD was listed by Heritage in May it struck me as being unusually nice for one of these at this grade. 64RD by most standards but this variety gets a little slack by PCGS. It will be interesting see what it sells for as a PCGS 65RD, which normally reach the 10K range.

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    heh heh heh
  • I give up. I don't even want to collect coins anymore.


    Jerry
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    Good eye shylock.

    Good eye.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭
    Good eye shylock.

    The best. His specialty.

    But this is exactly why I don't do MS. I don't like the games and it's getting harder and harder to trust the "experts".

    Joe.
  • I had to look hard but he's right, it's the same coin - little spot on the reverse is a giveaway.


  • << <i>I give up. I don't even want to collect coins anymore.


    Jerry >>



    Does this mean that I can have all your coins?
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.


  • << <i>...and it's getting harder and harder to trust the "experts". >>



    Hi,

    I agree - read my sig line image

    Best,
    Billy
  • Gee, now it's an overgraded coin.
    image"Darkside" gold


  • << <i>Gee, now it's an overgraded coin. >>



    If it had been in a green tag holder, I might agree with you but the tag on the original holder is recent enough that there is a good chance that it may have been undergraded the first time around and it is a very pretty coin. It's not like it has any obvious flaws that would automatically keep it from upgrading. Who knows, this coin may not even have been a crackout or regular resubmission. It may have been subjected to a presidential review, if that is the case, are you going to argue with HRH saying that this a 65 and not a 64 as previously slabbed???
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    If you browse through 1894/1894's in Heritage's archive you'll find a lot of 65RDs that are comparible to this, as well as one or two other 64RDs that have upgraded over the past 4 years. (Only compare it to other Heritage examples since they photo copper the same way.) This one's actually cleaner than most, especially in the fields, with that large hidden spot in the U of UNITED the biggest distraction. So it's all relative, they do grade these pretty loose.

    Example 1
    (same coin selling for 2.5K more)
    Example 2
    (same coin as a 64)
    Example 3
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    where the he11 is K6AZ when this happens???

    oh that's right, it's a slabed by pcgs or ngc, so no fraud could possibly be taking place.

    K S

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