I am considering selling some of MY coins and was wondering if it's ok with you ?
ss350camaro
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I thought i'd check in and make sure it's ok for me to sell some of MY coins on eBay? And if it's ok to set my own asking prices?
Please let me know as i wouldn't want to offend those of you who deem it necessary to put yourselves in someone elses private business.
Thanks for your support.
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PS......that tug is me pulling your leg in light of all the inane posts regarding resales lately
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
<< <i>PS......that tug is me pulling your leg in light of all the inane posts regarding resales lately >>
hence, the 'gist' of my addition to the current forum mood about the sales of 'someone elses' coins.
A sad couple of days so far
you may not think for yourself, you may not decide for yourself, you may as well go back to sleep.
K S
<< <i> Get this over the B/S/T board, you %)(*#//. >>
Bite Me
Jerry
I forgot to add. There is a waiver form you can fill out. I'm the only one who has them and they cost allot. But I'll be a honest forms dealer. It's a bad buy. There's nowhere to send them to be approved.
Louis
<< <i>Only if you give me first crack at them >>
You mean, bite the crack first.?
Sure you can sell them at your own price. Just don't imply that the potential buyer might be able to get it slabbed by PCGS or NGC, then
make a profit, when you know it's very likely AT as stated by ANACs.
Oh, I forgot. That's just an opinion like anyone else's.
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<< <i>To make that coin related, if they were to bite you, would the bruising have AT or NT toning?
Louis >>
I always wondered about that too.
Jerry
Check out a Vanguard Roth IRA.
You had better check in with K6AZ first, don't ya think?
at any asking price you wish.
But if the asking's too high,
you won't land your fish.
If others think
your price is unfair,
you won't sell your coin-
you haven't a prayer.
But for others to say
"hey, that ain't right,
this you can't do, this you may"
is laying the groundwork
for a heck of a fight.
is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
Russ, NCNE
some of your coins. We will have to review any potential buyer to see if the
coins are appropriate for them. The Coincil of Wise guys and ladies must render
its decision as to the price you can sell the coins for and in which month they can be
sold. Before any coins are actually sold, an environment impact study must be conducted
which could take from 2-3 years. Please move along as there is a very long line odf supplicants
and syncofants behind you. NEXT CASE!
Camelot
<< <i> Yes, it's okay as long as you don't put any links to executables in your listing. >>
Ok, I'll remove the www.compucheap.com link from my "helpful links" section.
Thanks for your helpful suggestions and support
Camelot
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Of course you can sell your own coins and you can sell them to whomever and
wherever you wish. They are your coins, why wouldn't you be able to sell them?
Post a picture of it in the appropriate slab and we'll let you know how much you
can charge.
However understand a few guidelines:
You are not allowed to sell them too high, only a reasonable profit is allowed. For example, if you bought the coin for $100 and it sells normally for $2000 then you must limit yourself to a 10% profit and sell at $110. Otherwise you might be mistaken for a greedy dealer.
If anyone thinks the coin is less that what you think it is then this must be revealed. For example, if you show an MS65 to a friend and he says it looks like a 64, you must put that in the description.
If the coin was in a holder at a different grade that must be revealed and the coin must be priced at the lower grades price. After all, upgrading a coin shows you to be a greedy manipulator of the system and if you don't reveal its been upgraded................well.........i'm sure scumsucker, wannabe, and unethical are just a few of the names you will be called.
Also don't forget to include the history of the coin, who owned it before, who sold it to you and of course, how much you paid for it.
Other than that.......hey its a free market system, isn't it?
NO....you must load them all in the trunk of your Camaro, drive to my house, sign the title, leave the keys in the ignition and walk away
I don't care what, how or for how much you sell or buy anything. However, if a board member does some research and finds out that a coin you are selling was once in an AT slab or that it was purchased at a lower price and grade and now hyped as an almost certainty for a higher grade but I'm too lazy to submit it so I will let the lucky buyer make the big gain etc. etc. then expect to see a thread about it and rightfully so just as there have been many threads dealing with these and other similar situations. It's a valuable education.
What is distasteful to me is that now because the thread happened to be about board members there is now an almost apologetic discourse on the subject while other non-members have not fared as well (and most were not here to "defend" themselves). Since a lot of the original posts have been edited it is unclear what pressure was brought to bear, if any, to have those original posts edited. I take exception to that. The posts should have remained unedited and I question the need for an apology.
I don't care if anyone agrees or disagrees with the strategies/tactics written about in those posts only that the posts be written and remain to educate the masses as to what strategies/tactics do exist that may help one decide who to buy from, what to buy, how to research, and what to pay.
Precisely. I'll be Tonecoin3000's biggest ally next time one of his "fair market value" auctions is being criticized.
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the "excessive profit",
failure to disclose the seller purchase price and
failure to reveal the previous grade of the coin,
Unacceptable "hype" language about buying it back,
all of which are NOBODY ELSES BUSINESS.
NOT to mention TOTALLY UNSUBSTANTIATED ACCUSATIONS OF THREATS
<< <i> Stare deeply at the pocket watch I am swinging back and forth. >>
I think it's working /
<< <i>NO....you must load them all in the trunk of your Camaro, drive to my house, sign the title, leave the keys in the ignition and walk away >>
yes master....................i see your wisdom and must obey......................
NOT !!!
<< <i> Of course it is OK, as long as you don't make omissions about the condition of the coin, then ask fifty times what the coin is worth. >>
I would of course put all pertinent info in my auctions, including anything i know about the coin, or coins, in question. If the coin has history i know nothing about then i obviously can't put anything in.
If i bought the coin for say $100, and find out later that it's worth substantially more, why can't i ask the true (or perceived) value ?
If the market will bear this value, then why shouldn't i be able to take advantage of it ?
If my coin ends up being worth several thousand dollars, should i sell it for a mythical set forth precentage of my purchase price, or the "real" value?
<< <i> You obviously still don't get it. If you think it is ethical to buy a coin that has been determined by experts to be artificially toned for $150, then list it as NT for $7500, you're as bad as they are. >>
I'm sorry? Where did i say something about any coins looked at by "experts" and "NT" coin ?
By the way. What happend to not editing ?
<< <i>By the way. What happend to not editing ? >>
Well, I'm not Eric, and I don't have bets on any of the horses in this race, but IMO there is a big difference between immediately going back and correcting typos, and going back to cover your tracks hours later.
<< <i> Suggesting that this topic was simply about 'the price paid' is akin to describing the Lewinsky matter as 'just about sex.' Disingenuous in the extreme. >>
HUH ?
My previous response did mention something about a price paid but what does that have to do with my initial question.
Joe.
<< <i> Well, I'm not Eric, and I don't have bets on any of the horses in this race, but IMO there is a big difference between immediately going back and correcting typos, and going back to cover your tracks hours later. >>
And since you're not Eric how can you speak as to what he edited and why ?
assumptions? or did Eric PM you his post before he posted it ?
Just curious................
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<< <i> You obviously still don't get it. If you think it is ethical to buy a coin that has been determined by experts to be artificially toned for $150, then list it as NT for $7500, you're as bad as they are. >>
I'm sorry? Where did i say something about any coins looked at by "experts" and "NT" coin ?
By the way. What happend to not editing ? >>
Come on now, you think you're being clever but this thread is pretty transparent. You posted this in response to the 81-S Morgan thread. Apparently you have become one of those that think these guys can do no wrong, so you posted your own thread to whine.
What I really find interesting is that you believed SamThompson was a fraud for selling stuff at 50x the value, but apparently your gods are immune and charge whatever they like, even omitting material facts about the coin.
As far as the editing, this also shows you pay absolutely no attention to what is written. I said I would not edit OUT my posts. I will edit typos, since that is the only thing your exalted one can do to fight back.
<< <i>And since you're not Eric how can you speak as to what he edited and why ?
assumptions? or did Eric PM you his post before he posted it ?
Just curious................ >>
Assumptions, admittedly. The post went up at 3:09 (local time) and the edit was at 3:09 as well. It's possible that he deleted a large block of text quickly -- I don't know.
But I do know that when you edit within the same minute in time as the original post, you're not covering your tracks after being called out on something you wrote in that post.
Yes, Sam got an awful thrashing didn't he. He was just trying to make a profit after all. The price he paid for those pennies was irrelevant. And it IS possible that a valuable rare coin would be included in the hoard. Hey, the buyers were taking a gamble. I think we all owe Sam an apology now.
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<< <i>Come on now, you think you're being clever but this thread is pretty transparent. You posted this in response to the 81-S Morgan thread. Apparently you have become one of those that think these guys can do no wrong, so you posted your own thread to whine.
What I really find interesting is that you believed SamThompson was a fraud for selling stuff at 50x the value, but apparently your gods are immune and charge whatever they like, even omitting material facts about the coin.
As far as the editing, this also shows you pay absolutely no attention to what is written. I said I would not edit OUT my posts. I will edit typos, since that is the only thing your exalted one can do to fight back. >>
Eric,
Yes, my thread does have something to do with the others posted. In essence, A question about who's business it is when a person sells coins from their own private collection. Not "whinning" as you put it, but gathering concencus about how others feel about it.
Yes, SamThompson was a fraud, no question there. Cameron did a fantastic job of 'outing' him. Cameron deserves all the credit.
Is Adrian a "fraud" because he purchased a coin (RAW) and tried to sell it for a higher amount than he paid ? Some might agree that his asking price seemed higher than what they might expect, but it is his coin to do with as he pleases. If the market won't bear his asking price then it will never sell. Pretty simple logic. He writes 'colorful' auction descriptions and is willing to entertain his prospective audience while offering them his wares. I really don't see a big problem with that. ?
Your very transparent premise for your re-peat posts (copying braddicks) was obviously an attempt to cause a 'fight' on this forum. You got what you asked for. Maybe by some slim chance a small portion of your argument might have a chance at credability but most of it is quite clear. All you're doing is "whinning"..............................
P.S. If i miss-spelled anything feel free to use that tired old bash.
And, by the way. There is only one GOD. <J><
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<< <i>Come on now, you think you're being clever but this thread is pretty transparent. You posted this in response to the 81-S Morgan thread. Apparently you have become one of those that think these guys can do no wrong, so you posted your own thread to whine.
What I really find interesting is that you believed SamThompson was a fraud for selling stuff at 50x the value, but apparently your gods are immune and charge whatever they like, even omitting material facts about the coin.
As far as the editing, this also shows you pay absolutely no attention to what is written. I said I would not edit OUT my posts. I will edit typos, since that is the only thing your exalted one can do to fight back. >>
Eric,
Yes, my thread does have something to do with the others posted. In essence, A question about who's business it is when a person sells coins from their own private collection. Not "whinning" as you put it, but gathering concencus about how others feel about it.
Yes, SamThompson was a fraud, no question there. Cameron did a fantastic job of 'outing' him. Cameron deserves all the credit.
Is Adrian a "fraud" because he purchased a coin (RAW) and tried to sell it for a higher amount than he paid ? Some might agree that his asking price seemed higher than what they might expect, but it is his coin to do with as he pleases. If the market won't bear his asking price then it will never sell. Pretty simple logic. He writes 'colorful' auction descriptions and is willing to entertain his prospective audience while offering them his wares. I really don't see a big problem with that. ?
Your very transparent premise for your re-peat posts (copying braddicks) was obviously an attempt to cause a 'fight' on this forum. You got what you asked for. Maybe by some slim chance a small portion of your argument might have a chance at credability but most of it is quite clear. All you're doing is "whinning"..............................
P.S. If i miss-spelled anything feel free to use that tired old bash.
And, by the way. There is only one GOD. <J>< >>
You're totally wrong. I posted the auctions because pressure and threats were used to get the previous poster to remove the links.
And these aren't coins being sold from one's private collection. These are coins being sold by people who post here and even offer their coins here. To say this in none of our business is ludicrous. A coin was bought in an AT holder, cracked out, and presented as a NT coin for fifty times the AT price. If you don't think there is a problem here, you are very gullible.
<< <i>because pressure and threats were used to get the previous poster to remove the links. >>
Did I miss something? Where was the proof of that posted?
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send what you want to sell to me...i'll give you what i think is fair ....and there won't be any hard feelings that way !!
<< <i>A coin was bought in an AT holder, cracked out, and presented as a NT coin for fifty times the AT price. If you don't think there is a problem here, you are very gullible. >>
Eric,
You need to go back and re-read some of the posts.
TBT sold the coin to Adrian RAW. They did not disclose any history.
Again i'll repeat, If Adrian wants to try try and sell HIS coin at fifty times what he paid for it that is entirely his business.
It will either sell or not ..................
<< <i>You're totally wrong. I posted the auctions because pressure and threats were used to get the previous poster to remove the links. >>
Unless i missed it both parties publicly stated they did not contact braddick in any way.
braddick has not come back on and disputted this fact.
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ENOUGH ALREADY!!! ONTO THE COINS!!!!!
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
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<< <i>A coin was bought in an AT holder, cracked out, and presented as a NT coin for fifty times the AT price. If you don't think there is a problem here, you are very gullible. >>
Eric,
You need to go back and re-read some of the posts.
TBT sold the coin to Adrian RAW. They did not disclose any history.
Again i'll repeat, If Adrian wants to try try and sell HIS coin at fifty times what he paid for it that is entirely his business.
It will either sell or not .................. >>
And I'll repeat, you don't think at some point there was some funny business going on here? If it went down as you wrote above, TBT has some serious explaining to do.