Anyone have a picture of an 11 cent piece?

dlimb2

Thanks

coynclecter

I'm looking for it, I put it with my $3 bill.

coinguy89

<< <i>I'm looking for it, I put it with my $3 bill. >>



He's serious though, he has a coin that is a dime with a penny struck through it, or something like that.

jcping

Many of these 11 cents, 26 cents (25+1), PCGS/NGC won't slab them.
It is very hard to tell whether the double is a real one since too less information was on the coins.

dlimb2

Well that is a crock of you know what...one big error dealer is selling one and I was just wondering if anyone else had one other than that one.

dlimb2

Just how rare are they...anyone know?

Gonfunko

Here you go:

Seriously, though, if it's a mint-made error, I'd imagine they're very rare. On the other hand, if it's a magician's coin, they're not worth much at all.

coynclecter

So , what if I put a heated dime between 2 cents and slammed it with a hammer? Would that work?

LALASD4

Here is a few.

LOOK

dlimb2

I have no clue...but I do know about flow lines...and they can tell a whole lot about a coin....

dlimb2

LALASD4
Thank You that is very helpful.

LALASD4

It is easy to tell the real one from the hammer jobs. Look at the two images, if they are the same as a regular coin than they are real, if they are mirror images than they are not.

dlimb2

Can I show you a picture...you seem to know what you are talking about and are a collector of such.

LALASD4

Sure

dlimb2

LALASD4, know I know the One Cen is incused while the dime is raised...but can you tell me how this coin got this way....as you will note, on the dime that the lettering and the numbers still have rounded tops where the One Cen lays back of the dime lettering and numbers...and if this had been hammered or viced these letters and numbers would have been flattened out...am I right or wrong? This coin is not like the 11 Cent coins you have shown me.

Rob790

Looks like a rather obvious hammer/vice sandwich job. Bet the other side also has an incuse design, mussy surfaces or flattened look to it.

LALASD4

Hammer Job! ( Light hammer) not a whole lot of detail got transfered. One a real one, the designs are never incused, notice that the N's are backwards. Write one cent on a piece of paper and flip it over, thats what you got on your dime.

dlimb2

No the reverse is not flattened out or mussy...if it were to be graded it would be have the FL.

dlimb2

LALASD4, if it were hammered the letters would have been flattened but they are not!

LALASD4

Is there any design of the cent on the back? do you have a picture of the back?

dlimb2

LALASD4,
I do but I will have to trim them so they will fit...I will be back in a little while with them...I really appreciate your help.

LALASD4

Unless the Rev. is double, there is no way this could be real.

The only way that it could be real is like this nickel.




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dlimb2

Yes it could be a double strike maybe..how about the dime planchet being struck first by a partial one cen die and then being struck with the dime...cause I do not see how this got hammered.

JRocco

If you placed one coin- say the dime- on a cushioned surface, like a carpet or a handful of paper towels, then place the other coin, say the cent on top of the dime and then hit the cent with the hammer you would get a similar effect without the reverse of the dime showing any problems. Then just throw the cent (evidence) away.

LALASD4

Yes it could be a double strike maybe..how about the dime planchet being struck first by a partial one cen die and then being struck with the dime...cause I do not see how this got hammered.

In that case the letters would not be incused and reversed.

coynclecter

I found it, it was by my $3 bill like I thought................Oh, so I was supposed to throw the smashed cent away too.. Ok


Got to get my new listed off to Ebay!!!!!!!!!


I
wannabe
wannabe
wannabe
a dealer!

Ah, Yes, Champagne, caviar, livin off the fat of the coin biz!!!!!!!

LALASD4

Someone beat you to it, you can get a real nice hammer job from this guy and so far all his clients had been satisfied:

Nice hammer jobs.

dlimb2

Here they are rather boaring but ...

LALASD4

I cannot see anything, but I am 99.99 % sue that it is a hammer job. Unless I could see it in person and sees somethings that are not in the picture, I think it is a fake.

dlimb2

Yeah I could figure that one was.

DesertRat

Here you go:


Lol beat me to it Gonfunko

dlimb2

It is the numbers and letters that make this one confussing...

dlimb2

Jrocco, then how would you explain the letters and numbers not being flattened?

dlimb2

LALASD4, Thank You.

LALASD4

No problem, usaually the fakes are on pennies so this fake is kind of unusual.

rottnrog

Here are a couple of 11 cent pieces;

dlimb2

Maybe the whole dime is bogus...like back in the old days when they counterfited I think it was nickels.

LALASD4

Anyone got a picture of a 15 cent?

dlimb2

rottnrog, those are nice...I hope you own them.

rottnrog

<< <i>rottnrog, those are nice...I hope you own them. >>



They were in my inventory, they are sold now.

dlimb2

Well I hope they went for big bucks then.

JRocco

Hi dlimb2. It is hard to explain why. I would think that the impression was not evenly hit onto the dime. I might be wrong dlimb2 in my assumption. It is just my opinion that this is what may have happened here.

dlimb2

I just find the whole coin strange...definately one to think about.

dlimb2

I just compared the planchet of the messed up dime to a regular dime...it is a tad bigger but not as large as a penny....hummmm....now this has me thinking again! Could the planchet have been struck with the penny and spread the metal out then hit with the dime die...betcha betcha betcha...shure would clear up the wonderment of it all.

seanq

It is a tad bigger because it spread out when being hit by the cent and the hammer. There is simply no plausible way to get incuse design elements from a cent on a dime during the Mint process. I agree completele with Lalasd4, it is a fake.


Sean Reynolds

sliderider

Informative link

dlimb2

Seanq, what if the flow lines continue through the field of the dime down into the incused areas and back up onto the elements......Never say Never!!

dlimb2

Here is an example.

Conder101

Well the the flowlines prove that the dime was struck first forming the flowlines. When thecent was hammered into the dime the lettering pressed into the surface of the dime but did not wipe out the flowlines. As to why the lettering of the dime wasn't flattened, it impressed into the cent. If you had the cent that was used to create this you would find that it had incuse reverse lettering form the dime on it.

dlimb2

Well this guy seems to be pretty good at it...he has to be using something more than a hammer or a vice to do it with....I would think some kinda press.

LALASD4

It just takes practice.