I do collect half dimes by date and mint mark, including Seated, but I don't consider myself an expert in the series. There are several other half dime collectors around, but only a few do Seated, and I don't know anyone who specializes in them.
I only have two... as well...an 1837 No Stars in MS (NGC 62) and one my father found during WWII in Germany when his division captured some castle and he pryed open an eloborate desk with his bayonet, and found an 1852-O in very near MS ( very interesting find, if I say so myself) . This coin is still in raw state and I can see no wear or rub what so ever on this coin. It must have been mailed back to the Vaterland in 1852 by some relative of their's !!! ???
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I threw this question up on the board just to see who/how many was into this series of coins and who would answer. I know alot of people don't collect seated half dimes and I hesitate(in fact , dont ask) asking questions on this board about these coins because I think people find them uninteresting. Why I say this is because I see very very few seated half dime images posted and very very few posts on this forum pertaining to this series of coin. I check the BST forum everyday and hardly ever see seated half dimes for sale(within my price range which means circulated). I Scan through every issue of Coin World that shows up weekly for some seated half dimes for sale and I hardly find any(unless you have couple grand to burn). Articles on seated half dimes in Coin World ,so far, have been non exsitant hmpppf. I check E-bay also but after reading some of the horror stories about ebay I put the brakes on hard before bidding(except for one that is up right now and I hope I get it, but probably get sniped). I even joined up to the local coin club and noticed that people are not into seated half dimes.
I don't expect everyone in the whole world to like what I like, that's not my point. My point is why are so few people into this type of coin? Maybe money is a big factor? Seated half dimes don't turn a profit say like maybe Morgan dollars, Peace dollars, Barber halves( examples). Design issues? Do I like ugly coins? I collect Franklin Halves. I hear alot of folks saying how ugly they are(I'm sure they are kidding hahaha).
Particular questions:
Do I have to worry about strike with circulated seated half dimes? Circulated is about the best I can do until I make my big bucks. Since I'm an artist that means I'll probably be missing an ear and wearing a white jacket or dead. Hahaha
Cleaned coin Vs. Original - what do I watch out for on this particular series?
If ya read this...... far thanks for reading! It's a rarity! Hahaha
Thank you Legend for offering up PM's, I'm certain I'll be using them.
purple73 If you would like to see a nice collection of Seated Half Dimes, go to Bowers & Merena web site and view the sale of the Jim Gray Collection, July 8 & 9, 2004. Lots 2001-2072 By reading the lot descriptions you will learn quite a bit. Half Dimes are not overly popular, but there are many who collect them. Some are extremely rare and a good value considering how scarce they are. (if you can find them) The lack of popularity, I believe comes from their small size?
Hi Purple73. I love seated half dimes and do collect them. I think they are not popular mainly because of their size, but I think they are cute.... and some gems are breath taking. I also like them because they are affordable when compared with larger seated coins(dimes, dollers etc.) I don't have enough knowledge on this series to help you......sorry....... but I just wanted to tell you that you are not alone!!
<< <i>.... Articles on seated half dimes in Coin World ,so far, have been non exsitant hmpppf.... >>
There are many "small coins" that are very popular. Lincoln Cents are small coins. They are popular. Flying Eagle Cents are small coins, they are popular. Half dimes are only somewhat smaller in size than these - so I don't think "small size" bias is necessarily a prime issue surrounding Half Dime popularity. Many half dimes are wildly popular. For example, the 1792 half disme is a small coin. Yet, there is ferocious bidding for these any time they come up for sale and they come up often enough too (so demand is plentiful). The same is true concerning the far rarer 1802 half dime, as well as many other half dime dates.
My experience in this Series leads me to believe that Half Dimes are VERY popular among elite and savvy numismatists. It's a Series that is prized by advanced collectors. It may be true that Jefferson Nickel collectors are not interested in the series, but guys who collect things like Ikes and Jeffs are of a different mindset than half dime numismatists generally. Folks interested in "collector coins" probably read Coinworld in greater numbers than serious Half Dime numismatists.
As for dealers, they tend to be slack with Half Dimes because they can't get the good ones easily or cheaply. When key and better date half dimes do show up in their inventories, they usually sell very quickly and for real money. I've missed out on plenty of key and better date half dime offerings despite calling the SAME day that the coin was posted to their website! "Sorry, already sold" is a common response.
Remember, dealers (and therefore publications like Coinworld) tend to favor coins like Buffalo Nickels, Morgan dollars, Lincoln Cents and other "flip em quick" type stuff. You won't find many articles about half dimes in the pages of Coinworld as this is a rag that is laden with articles about State Quarters, Sacs, and the nine millionth article about the person who designed the Buffalo Nickel. Do you think a Half Dime numismatist cares about such stuff? Doubtful! Consider this, some of the most advanced cabinets in numismatics were MISSING key half dime dates. You won't read about that in Coinworld though. Wonder why? matteproof
You've been given some good information here, Purple73. I suggest you join The LSCC. I don't specialize in the Seated Half Dimes, but I do have 3 dozen or so laying around, including the 1853 O No Arrows, the 1858 inverted date and the 1858 double date. Don't be afraid to buy these in circulated condition on Ebay. The Seated coins are all too cheap. There's not much chance of taking a hit when buying lower priced circulated coins in the seated series.
I lack three coins for a complete date and mint set , 1846, 65, and 67. I have a few varieties, and I discovered the 1873-S V-2 variety. They are a neat little series with a LOT of tougher pieces. One of the better specialist dealers for the Series is Charles Woodruff.
<< <i>It's Disme, and it's still pronounced just like Dime >>
The point about size discussed above reminded me of an article I recently read regarding the Euro. Apparently some countries are trying to outlaw the one euro coin and others have required rounding up of prices so the one Euro will become useless. Its small size is what is behind the movement as they get lost easilly in sofa cuishions, etc. To some these are a nuisance coin and same was probably true to many of the half dime in its heyday.
<< <i>I see very very few seated half dime images posted and very very few posts on this forum pertaining to this series of coin >>
Sorry I can't help with information on the series but here's a picture of the only one I have. AU55+-, nice toning & not real popular, sounds just like what starving artists should look for. Good luck on your collection.
HOLY SMOKE! Look at that half dime! Ok, now that is a beatiful coin! Why would anyone not want to collect those. Just so awesome.
The dealer at the coin shop asked me what I like to collect today(yesterday, sorry I work the midnight shift) and I told him Franklin halves and Seated Half dimes. He had this really weird look on his face and raised his eyebrows. He said, "interesting combination, you don't run into very many seated half dime collectors, it's a great series to collect"
Thank you for all the info folks. I think the seated half dime deserves to be talked about every once in a while. I follow this board fairly close and haven't seen anything on them for some time now. I figured I would try to get a good thread going on them in case others are interested or perhaps spark some interests.
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<< <i>Who would be the person to talk to about this series? >>
What questions would you like answered?
What did you want to know about them?
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The issues from 1863 to 1867 are my favorites in Gem. One day I hope to have a set.
Always liked the 1853-0 No Arrows. And I'm not really a variety guy, but that one is cool.
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4 "YOU SUCKS"
Numerous POTD (But NONE officially recognized)
Seated Halves are my specialty !
Seated Half set by date/mm COMPLETE !
Seated Half set by WB# - 289 down / 31 to go !!!!!
(1) "Smoebody smack him" from CornCobWipe !
IN MEMORY OF THE CUOF
I threw this question up on the board just to see who/how many was into this series of coins and who would answer. I know alot of people don't collect seated half dimes and I hesitate(in fact , dont ask) asking questions on this board about these coins because I think people find them uninteresting. Why I say this is because I see very very few seated half dime images posted and very very few posts on this forum pertaining to this series of coin. I check the BST forum everyday and hardly ever see seated half dimes for sale(within my price range which means circulated). I Scan through every issue of Coin World that shows up weekly for some seated half dimes for sale and I hardly find any(unless you have couple grand to burn). Articles on seated half dimes in Coin World ,so far, have been non exsitant hmpppf. I check E-bay also but after reading some of the horror stories about ebay I put the brakes on hard before bidding(except for one that is up right now and I hope I get it, but probably get sniped). I even joined up to the local coin club and noticed that people are not into seated half dimes.
I don't expect everyone in the whole world to like what I like, that's not my point. My point is why are so few people into this type of coin? Maybe money is a big factor? Seated half dimes don't turn a profit say like maybe Morgan dollars, Peace dollars, Barber halves( examples). Design issues? Do I like ugly coins? I collect Franklin Halves. I hear alot of folks saying how ugly they are(I'm sure they are kidding hahaha).
Particular questions:
Do I have to worry about strike with circulated seated half dimes? Circulated is about the best I can do until I make my big bucks. Since I'm an artist that means I'll probably be missing an ear and wearing a white jacket or dead. Hahaha
Cleaned coin Vs. Original - what do I watch out for on this particular series?
If ya read this...... far thanks for reading! It's a rarity! Hahaha
Thank you Legend for offering up PM's, I'm certain I'll be using them.
PURPLE!
If you would like to see a nice collection of Seated Half Dimes, go to Bowers & Merena web site and view the sale of the Jim Gray Collection, July 8 & 9, 2004. Lots 2001-2072 By reading the lot descriptions you will learn quite a bit. Half Dimes are not overly popular, but there are many who collect them. Some are extremely rare and a good value considering how scarce they are. (if you can find them) The lack of popularity, I believe comes from their small size?
<< <i>I thought they were called dismeys?? >>
It's Disme, and it's still pronounced just like Dime...
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I love seated half dimes and do collect them.
I think they are not popular mainly because of their size, but I think they are cute.... and some gems are breath taking.
I also like them because they are affordable when compared with larger seated coins(dimes, dollers etc.)
I don't have enough knowledge on this series to help you......sorry....... but I just wanted to tell you that you are not alone!!
<< <i>It's Disme, and it's still pronounced just like Dime... >>
JrGMan2004, I believe it is technically pronounced Deam/Deem not Dime?
<< <i>.... Articles on seated half dimes in Coin World ,so far, have been non exsitant hmpppf.... >>
There are many "small coins" that are very popular. Lincoln Cents are small coins. They are popular. Flying Eagle Cents are small coins, they are popular. Half dimes are only somewhat smaller in size than these - so I don't think "small size" bias is necessarily a prime issue surrounding Half Dime popularity. Many half dimes are wildly popular. For example, the 1792 half disme is a small coin. Yet, there is ferocious bidding for these any time they come up for sale and they come up often enough too (so demand is plentiful). The same is true concerning the far rarer 1802 half dime, as well as many other half dime dates.
My experience in this Series leads me to believe that Half Dimes are VERY popular among elite and savvy numismatists. It's a Series that is prized by advanced collectors. It may be true that Jefferson Nickel collectors are not interested in the series, but guys who collect things like Ikes and Jeffs are of a different mindset than half dime numismatists generally. Folks interested in "collector coins" probably read Coinworld in greater numbers than serious Half Dime numismatists.
As for dealers, they tend to be slack with Half Dimes because they can't get the good ones easily or cheaply. When key and better date half dimes do show up in their inventories, they usually sell very quickly and for real money. I've missed out on plenty of key and better date half dime offerings despite calling the SAME day that the coin was posted to their website! "Sorry, already sold" is a common response.
Remember, dealers (and therefore publications like Coinworld) tend to favor coins like Buffalo Nickels, Morgan dollars, Lincoln Cents and other "flip em quick" type stuff. You won't find many articles about half dimes in the pages of Coinworld as this is a rag that is laden with articles about State Quarters, Sacs, and the nine millionth article about the person who designed the Buffalo Nickel. Do you think a Half Dime numismatist cares about such stuff? Doubtful! Consider this, some of the most advanced cabinets in numismatics were MISSING key half dime dates. You won't read about that in Coinworld though. Wonder why? matteproof
I suggest you join
The LSCC.
I don't specialize in the Seated Half Dimes, but I do have 3 dozen or so laying around, including the 1853 O No Arrows, the 1858 inverted date and the 1858 double date.
Don't be afraid to buy these in circulated condition on Ebay. The Seated coins are all too cheap. There's not much chance of taking a hit when buying lower priced circulated coins in the seated series.
Ray
LSCC# 1395
<< <i>1853 O No Arrows, >>
Is it for sale?
<< <i>It's Disme, and it's still pronounced just like Dime >>
It's pronounced "Deem"
<< <i>I see very very few seated half dime images posted and very very few posts on this forum pertaining to this series of coin >>
Sorry I can't help with information on the series but here's a picture of the only one I have. AU55+-, nice toning & not real popular, sounds just like what starving artists should look for. Good luck on your collection.
The dealer at the coin shop asked me what I like to collect today(yesterday, sorry I work the midnight shift) and I told him Franklin halves and Seated Half dimes. He had this really weird look on his face and raised his eyebrows. He said,
"interesting combination, you don't run into very many seated half dime collectors, it's a great series to collect"
Thank you for all the info folks. I think the seated half dime deserves to be talked about every once in a while. I follow this board fairly close and haven't seen anything on them for some time now. I figured I would try to get a good thread going on them in case others are interested or perhaps spark some interests.
PURPLE!
Chris
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<< <i>1853 O No Arrows, >>
Is it for sale? >>
I'll give you firrst shot when I sell.
Ray