Will the lockout hurt vintage hockey this coming year?
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I know the new cards will be affected, but what about pre 1980? Will it be the same affect the 1994 Baseball strike had?
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Rob...
But if vintage hockey starts getting cheap, I'd throw $ at it. Very tough to find. Low pops in high grade. Small set sizes making sets practical and not to expensive. Look at any drop in prices as a chance to get in ot even get in deeper.
Fuzz
Hockey set! Always looking to buy, trade or upgrade 1966 Topps to 1969 OPC.
Not meaning record prices, just a lot of action as usual.
The NHL is going through its worst period right now.
The 60's were awesome.
The late 60's were incredible.
The mid 70's saw the Orr overdose expire along
with an awesome Canada Cup. The late 70's
was strong with Bruins-Canadiens and the original
six doing well except Detriot and sometimes Toronto.
There was a lot of intrique with the play of the Flyers,
who still have many fans from those mid-70's teams.
The early 80's was incredible with the awesome Islanders
and the up and coming Oilers. The late 80's had the
best Canada Cup ever, and the emergence of 66.
The 90's was good until the Devils style influenced the game,
perfected by Jacque Lemaire, and introduced in the late
60's by Scotty Bowman to allow his slow skating Blues to
match the better skating Bruins.
Now we have entered an era of bad economics and a watered
down league. John Leclair said that interest in the states
is very low. This is very true. There are die hard hockey fans
here, but many could care less because the game is dull right now.
Hockey needs a lot to survive the next few years. If another
99 doesn't come along soon, then the future doesn't look good.
However, the vintage card market will remain strong.
The collectors are die-hards and totally committed.
I personally will not miss the season. When I get the itch,
I'll pop in tapes when hockey was good. The 87 cup...
the 80 olympics....playoff games from the early 70's and
early 80's. That's when the game was open and awesome.
Your question about who do you believe is an easy one.
It's both.
Some owners like Ed Snider of the Flyers is making billions of dollars
with Comcast and can spend whatever he wants on high priced players.
The Domino Pizza Red Wings can do the same.
These and other owners who do well in other businesses can lose
money in the NHL and it won't hurt them.
On the other hand, look at Winnipeg, Quebec, and the other
teams that can go south.
These owners (some like Peter Pocklington) don't know
how to run a franchise and are really hurting.
I'm going to say that both sides are very wrong.
However, I think the owners are more in the wrong
for not disclosing their finances. If they could prove
to the players that they are in trouble, then the players
would look like fools, and the fans would be upset
with the players.
I'd be very interested to hear what Mario Lemieux has
to say about all this.
I would also be interested to see if another league
gets started because of this.
<< <i>I'd be very interested to hear what Mario Lemieux has to say about all this. >>
I was thinking the same thing the other day, Marc. He might be the only guy with an objective perspective of both sides of the issues. As one of the most respected figures in the game, he could be our best hope for settling this and salvaging at least some of the season.
By the way, are you sure the Red Wings are owned by Domino's Pizza? Domino's ceo is Don Monahan. I recall that Little Ceasers bought the Tigers from Tom Monahan in 1985. You could be mistaking the 2 Pizza companies.
<< <i>RedHeart,
Your question about who do you believe is an easy one.
It's both.
Some owners like Ed Snider of the Flyers is making billions of dollars
with Comcast and can spend whatever he wants on high priced players.
The Domino Pizza Red Wings can do the same.
These and other owners who do well in other businesses can lose
money in the NHL and it won't hurt them.
On the other hand, look at Winnipeg, Quebec, and the other
teams that can go south.
These owners (some like Peter Pocklington) don't know
how to run a franchise and are really hurting.
I'm going to say that both sides are very wrong.
However, I think the owners are more in the wrong
for not disclosing their finances. If they could prove
to the players that they are in trouble, then the players
would look like fools, and the fans would be upset
with the players.
I'd be very interested to hear what Mario Lemieux has
to say about all this.
I would also be interested to see if another league
gets started because of this. >>
Oh yeah, and as for the Vintage card prices, they won't be affected a bit, IMO.
An extended lockout will kill some teams. The NHL is in serious trouble and will shrink if this goes on for a long period of time. It took baseball years to regain attendance levels pre strike and it took the Mark McGuire home run chase as an event to help bring it back. If this season is lost I think it will be six years or more before attendance gets back to last year's level. The 94 lockout hurt hockey when the major media markets had a still good Gretzky in LA and the Rangers in NY as a dominant team - now we have Tampa and Calgary.
Having said all that negative stuff, I'll still buy vintage because I like it and I'll attend AHL games because they are reasonable cost and my family enjoys them. The lockout will impact new and casual fan interest, not addicts like most fo us.
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