Hey! There's a Marty Hoard proof Jefferson on Teletrade today!

Russ

Click here for some yummy candy!

Russ, NCNE

Bunker

Wow thats a nice Jefferson! Very nice color!

XpipedreamR

Marty who?

XpipedreamR

OK...I'm just being obtuse. I know who Marty is.

ziggy29

The price history of this particular issue tells us all we need to know about why so many good, original coins are being sent to the ovens for a chemical shake-and-bake session.

sliderider

Nice color. Now if I can find that toning on a high grade Roosie...

keets

hey Russ

it's funny that with all the publicity that Hoard got, here at least, it would still sell fairly close to where they sold about 15 months ago. but then i guess newbies may not know the history.

al h.

FrattLaw

It's amazing PCGS won't grade these anymore, but refuses to buy them back. Just doesn't seem right to me.

Michael

keets

hey Michael

did they say they wouldn't grade them anymore or that they were stopping till they investigated?? i thought it was the latter, but that should have been done already. as for a refusal to buy them back, if that's true it would seem to be wrong and irresponsible since they holdered them in the first place.

al h.

FrattLaw

My understanding is that a stop was put on grading them. And when requested to buy them back basically the answer was no. Granted I might not have all the information, but I'm sure about the 1st part. If so, then I imagine PCGS has an obligation to buy back all of the Hoard they can get their hands on.

Why they won't is somewhat of a mystery to me. I'd figure that for whatever reason if you stop grading a particular "hoard" then basically you are saying "we scr*wed the pooch" and they should make it right. Why would you want those coins floating around in your holders?

I would also apply this to NGC and the Hoard from the mountains of West Virginia. I believe those aren't getting slabbed anymore either, but again I'm not positive.

Michael

keets

hey Michael

if they haven't stopped grading the Appalachians, they probably should. don't even get me started on the PKOK.

al h.

FrattLaw

Market acceptability is a joke when the market knows the truth!

Michael

stman

Even if they did buy these back, how much are they REALLY worth? I assume the buyback would be the same as if they bought back a toned Morgan that went for a huge premium.

sliderider

Where's the MadMarty pedigree???

And I think the reason they won't take them back is because they know that the slabs are not airtite and that it is probably possible to AT them after slabbing. I don't know. Maybe you could conceivably place a slab in a closed container with a small amount of chlorine bleach and the fumes permeating the slab could tone the coin inside? Has anyone ever tried anything like this?

pontiacinf

I perfer my shake n bake on chicken


LEAVE THEM JEFFERYS ALONE!

earlwbollinger

So as I understand it, there is the possiblity that some of these (or all) were carefully altered to exhibit
these bright blue colors then?

Coinhusker1

Sorry for not knowing the history here, but what was the Marty hoard? I'm guessing it was an experiment in submitting AT coins to PCGS.

jbsteven

Russ

<< <i>So as I understand it, there is the possiblity that some of these (or all) were carefully altered to exhibit
these bright blue colors then? >>



No.



<< <i>I'm guessing it was an experiment in submitting AT coins to PCGS. >>



No.

Russ, NCNE