Submitted some coins and thought I'd choke

coynclecter

I was at Long Beach this weekend when I took some coins over to the PCGS booth for submission. One was an SLQ which I figured was a shot at 66, I broke it from a 65 holder, Real nice Luster. The lady decided to move it from my holder to hers and squezzed the plastic and started to insert her thumb and finger to pull the coin out when I yelped, EASY, don't grab it ... before i could finish she had slid it out (without pinching it) and it landed flat on her two fingers between the first and second nuckles. She then lifted it on the edges with her other hand and dropped it into the plastic.
Now I'm sure this lady has been trained on how to handle coins and I didn't think that was the best way. Even I can move a coin from one plastic to another without them every touching my hand. Am I just paranoid because I don't know better or is this is an acceptable way to transfer a coin.

Sequitur

Unacceptable. I would have been f-ing pissed with an attempted greasy-finger grab, too.

Sandhawk

coynclecter

Let me give her the benefit of the doubt and say MAYBE she was just opening the plastic with those two fingers, still is it acceptable to slid the coin flat onto a bare hand?

greghansen

is it acceptable to slid the coin flat onto a bare hand?

Not only no...but he** NO!

Completely unaccedptable for any any MS coin.

If that's what happens when your sitting in front of them, I shudder to think what is going on when their sitting in the privacy of their own offices.

sliderider

I think you just found the grader responsible for all the fingerprinted coins that are coming back from PCGS lately.

ms70

They'll never learn.

maddogale

before i could finish she had slid it out

Maybe this is how those Peace dollars and other coins have become scratched instead of a flip.....

dorkkarl

wait a minute, what kind of crappy holder did YOU have it in that it needed removal??? not sure your telling the whole story here.......

K S

bushmaster8

Totally bad. Totally scary. But, sadly, it doesn't surprise me at all. Was her name Orchid by any chance?

beartracks42

This would be a good topic to feed to David Hall on Tuesday. See if he walks around it or not!!


Gary

coynclecter

<< <i>wait a minute, what kind of crappy holder did YOU have it in that it needed removal??? >>



It was a brand new standard flip that I just got 50 of from a dealer. I assumed the required the use of ONLY thier larger flips.

dorkkarl

ah, in that case, assuming your saying you used a non-pvc flip, then yes, the chick screwed up.

start a thread here on the forum entitled "did i get screwed by pcgs" & you'll get quick satisfaction....

K S

coynclecter

What satisfaction can I expect? I don't want anything from them (except good grades) and I don't want to get her fired. I just want to know that they have been trained to handle coins better than that.

ss350camaro

What i would do is link this thread in the Q/A to David Hall.

Politely ask him to read thru it and post his response/reply.

dragon

I've had similar experiences submitting coins to PCGS at a large show, I think with the large number of coins they go through, they just treat them as widgets and show no respect or due care for other peoples propertyat times. Or perhaps these people just don't realize how very delicate and easily damaged the surfaces of some coins can be, especially large silver proof coins like proof Morgans or proof Trade dollars. The rough treatment or mishandling of a large silver proof coin can turn a PR66 into a PR64 quite easily IMO.

Baley

for some reason, some "professionals" think it's "cool" to appear very cavalier about handling coins, holding them flat in the palm of the hand or on the flats of the fingers, in a very casual and "non-careful" way.

When I first saw this as a kid, I thought it was just my local dealer who did this, but have seen it so many times since that I'm now convinced it's a kind of rebellion against the "too careful and paranoid" handling some folks insist on for even well-worn coins.

my own self, the higher grade the coin, the more carefully I'll handle it... circulated coins, I'll handle pretty casually, Gem Uncs and proofs get very very careful edge handling by edges only, and with washed hands.

TUMUSS

I would HOPE and EXPECT ALL PCGS EMPLOYEES WHO HANDLE COINS TO WEAR COTTON GLOVES!!!

AuldFartte

After reading this thread, now I'm real uncertain about submitting my US Type Set. The set may not be much, but it is mine, and I do have some nice MS and Proof coins in there.

Does NGC or ANACS have similar problems with poorly trained coin handlers?

Craton

<< <i>I would HOPE and EXPECT ALL PCGS EMPLOYEES WHO HANDLE COINS TO WEAR COTTON GLOVES!!! >>



They don't wear gloves. I think it has been determined that the use of gloves is more dangerous when handling coins then not wearing any. I think that wearing gloves has caused coins to be dropped.

ss350camaro

<< <i> I would HOPE and EXPECT ALL PCGS EMPLOYEES WHO HANDLE COINS TO WEAR COTTON GLOVES!!! >>



That's been discussed many many many times before.

The reason they DON'T wear gloves is the possibility of a coin slipping out of their grasp and hitting the floor.

The skin and tactile touch is much safer in this respect.

JrGMan2004

<< <i>I would HOPE and EXPECT ALL PCGS EMPLOYEES WHO HANDLE COINS TO WEAR COTTON GLOVES!!! >>

No one at PCGS wears gloves... HRH said they did for a while, but found that it was hard to handle the coins that way, and more coins slipped and fell... plus, just because you're wearing cotton gloves doesn't mean anything... if you've ever played handbells, which you do wear gloves when playing, you'll know what I mean... your hand oils collect in the gloves... so unless you wash your gloves after every time you use them... you're still getting oils on the coin, and you can still leave a mushy print on a coin...

beartracks42

Dorkkarl,

What the h*ll has "what kind of flip he used" got to do with how the coin was handled by the PCGS employee?????? Please explain the thought process there.


Gary


Afterall, we are not charity cases that PCGS is dealing with here!!!!!!!!!!!!!