Does this count in an English monarch collection?

spoon · September 9, 2004 10:52AM

First, since this is my first post in a long time, howdy y'all!

My numismatic wanderings have been pretty chaotic lately and consisting more of drooling over coins than buying them, but I hope to get back into the forum's rhythm now that I have an internet connection of my own down here in sunny, drought-ridden southern Arizona. Here goes...

A pretty cool coin from a man who was actually for a short time King of England: Philip II, as King of England, France, and Naples, and Prince of Spain.. Impressive title, eh?

This coin was issued in Naples, 1554-1556. Phil was King of England due to his marriage to Queen Mary.

So how many of you English collectors include coins like this? I really like that coat of arms!

BigAlan · September 9, 2004 11:05AM

Many 16th century Englishmen would have said NO.

Aethelred · September 9, 2004 11:05AM

In your collection you can count anything you fancy. I would not add it to mine, but thats just me.

ajaan · September 9, 2004 11:06AM

It wouldn't be in mine, but that's just me.

spoon · September 9, 2004 11:17AM

<< <i>Many 16th century Englishmen would have said NO.

>>

Hmm.. I guess I'm just odd

I like it! But then again I don't have much of a defined collection as it is, whatever it is. No discipline

ajaan · September 9, 2004 11:19AM

I like the coin also. It has a lot of detail and very round.

spinaker2000 · September 9, 2004 11:23AM

roundness counts!!

spoon · September 9, 2004 11:36AM

There's another Phillip II/R.Ang. coin at CNG (source of the first): here.

Askari · September 9, 2004 11:36AM

Impressive!! And welcome home, Eric!!

Sylvestius · September 9, 2004 3:07PM

i'd usually just go for the ones with Phillip and Mary together but i like coins that show more than on monarch.

spoon · September 10, 2004 7:06PM

Another foreign-born monarch's continental possesion: George I, Hannover (Taler is ex-Davenport, btw)

Askari · September 11, 2004 12:12AM

Cool!!

I was outbid on a nice example of one once.

CIVITAS · September 11, 2004 12:50AM

Here's good ol' George III's mug on a Hannover coin too:

And here's one struck just in his name from Brunswick Luneburg Calenberg Hannover:

sliderider · September 11, 2004 1:36AM

I wouldn't have said he was king of England by marriage, otherwise Lord Mountbatten would be king today. The kings wife is the queen, but marrying a queen does not make you king.

python · September 11, 2004 4:33AM

I love the coin but I wouldn't include it in my English collection.

coinkat · September 11, 2004 9:57AM

I am not sure what I would do with it but I wouldn't mind having that problem... great looking coin

spoon · September 11, 2004 1:30PM

Cool coins, too, Civitas!

BigAlan · September 12, 2004 11:54AM

I wouldn't have said he was king of England by marriage, otherwise Lord Mountbatten would be king today. The kings wife is the queen, but marrying a queen does not make you king.

In the Spanish tradition, Phillip insisted on and was declared King of England. There was a condition however. His title would lapse with the death of Mary. Mary had no children and at her death Elizabeth became queen. Phillip is the only Queen's consort to be declared King of England.

shirohniichan · September 12, 2004 11:58AM

<< <i>I wouldn't have said he was king of England by marriage, otherwise Lord Mountbatten would be king today. The kings wife is the queen, but marrying a queen does not make you king.

In the Spanish tradition, Phillip insisted on and was declared King of England. There was a condition however. His title would lapse with the death of Mary. Mary had no children and at her death Elizabeth became queen. Phillip is the only Queen's consort to be declared King of England. >>

Thanks for the clarification.

Does this count in an English monarch collection?

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