If Adrian can post threads about ebay coins is it okay for me and everyone else to do the same? I have half a dozen ebay color coins that I would love to get this type of exposure on. mike
"If Adrian can post threads about ebay coins is it okay for me and everyone else to do the same?"
Since no one answered your question, I will.
Of course. But be prepared to be attacked and accused of posting the picture for reasons other than simply sharing the image.
I have been attacked on numerous occasions.
People post images of all kinds of coins all the time. Why should you be any different?
However, personally I would appreciate it if you wouldn't hawk them here and please make sure there is some reason why you are posting an image of it. We see enough ugly, average coins with crappy images that we all feel obliged to compliment. "Oh, nice picture.....is that a Morgan?"
Well you know, in 1967 and '68 there was a lot of that "electric kool-aid" (LSD) stuff going around. These Kennedy's look like they may have been influenced by the pschedelia of the day!
"Wars are really ugly! They're dirty and they're cold. I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole." Mary
Cool Kennedy! If Adrian can post threads about ebay coins is it okay for me and everyone else to do the same? I have half a dozen ebay color coins that I would love to get this type of exposure on. mike So long as the poster is not hyping his coin for sale, there is no harm in posting images of coins that are for sale. In fact, untill you pointed it out, I would not have known this coin was for sale!
If it's for sale, somebody will find out and complain that it's posted here. And everyone will go look at the auction. And the rest of the seller's stuff. All publicity is good publicity
Personally, I don't really care if someone shows a nice coin as long as it's not overtly presented as a sale, and the forum doesn't become cluttered with that kind of stuff. I say overtly because if someone starts a thread about a coin that they have for sale...even if there's a lot of good information presented in such a thread...it's like an infomercial, ultimately an advertisement.
I enjoyed seeing this coin. I probably would have missed it in the BST forum.
This is my favorite Kennedy in my collection, and it is not for sale It has really nice luster and vibrant colors.
Adrian, all you have to do to make it perfectly legit in this forum is take your ebay link out of your signature (and you know this)- until you do that I would consider it spam
<< <i>"If it's for sale, somebody will find out and complain that it's posted here. And everyone will go look at the auction. And the rest of the seller's stuff. All publicity is good publicity
Personally, I don't really care if someone shows a nice coin as long as it's not overtly presented as a sale, and the forum doesn't become cluttered with that kind of stuff. I say overtly because if someone starts a thread about a coin that they have for sale...even if there's a lot of good information presented in such a thread...it's like an infomercial, ultimately an advertisement.
I enjoyed seeing this coin. I probably would have missed it in the BST forum." pipedreamdude
Great post XPD!
This is my favorite Kennedy in my collection, and it is not for sale It has really nice luster and vibrant colors.
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"Wars are really ugly! They're dirty and they're cold. I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole." Mary
that's pretty hip. a $2 coin with a hundred bux worth of obverse color and 50 bux worth of negative fuggly on the reverse, so...net? bout a $50 coin. maybe..
Geez why hasn't anybody called it AT yet? Because it's in the almighty PCGS slab? Don't care. I'm calling that one AT. How did it get in the holder in the first place???
Who out there thinks that they could take that coin and submit it raw and get it slabbed? Anyone?
"Adrian, all you have to do to make it perfectly legit in this forum is take your ebay link out of your signature (and you know this)- until you do that I would consider it spam"
Part of the reason I like this forum is to see some of the great photography of really cool coins.
I don't care if a coin is worth $50 or $50,000,000; if the image is nice and the coin has some nice eye appeal I'm glad someone took the time to image it and then to share it here.
Adrian's images are some of the best in the business. Who gives a crap that he has an ebay business? I don't see where he advertised or promoted this coin in any way. If Adrian posted all his images on the BST forums, I'd never get to enjoy them because I don't spend any time on the BST forum.
I could care less if there are dealers that want to post coin images on the US Coin Forums. Just do like Adrian did, post the image and don't mention the fact that the coin is for sale. I'm totally fine with that.
Go ahead dealers! Let's see you post some ANACONDA images of great coins!
These forums toughen me....did you know that I used to be one really tough dude?
I came in 10th place (out of 150) in the Gil Harder Memorial Biathalon in Abilene, Texas.....50 miles on a bicycle and then a full marathon after that. I completed it in 7 hours 25 minutes.
I've ridden a bronc.
I've hitchhiked across the US
I've ridden my motorcycle around the US
I finished my MBA and my law degree at the same time and
Unless you made it, it's pretty hard to prove that something is not natural.
Everyone has an opinion. I have opinions but I don't generally allege that I know something is original.
My opinion is "if it's in an NGC or PCGS holder, that's good enough for me."
And why shouldn't it be?
Do we generally know more about toning that PCGS or NGC?
Adrian
I think what I said was "I'm calling that one AT" which is to say, I was not saying factually that it was or wasn't but that it is MY OPINION that it is. If I wasn't clear on that I apologise. For the record, it's MY OPINION that the other coin you posted is AT as well. Doesn't mean it's a bad coin though or one not worth owning.
>>My opinion is "if it's in an NGC or PCGS holder, that's good enough for me."<<
Come on, I know you're smarter than that. It's true that it's easier to let someone else think for you, I guess. My question for you though is how do you know the coin wasn't authenticated by someone with brains made out of green baby poop?
robertpr: It's OK for you to call it AT; obviously that's your opinion and not one of fact.
I said
"if it's in an NGC or PCGS holder, that's good enough for me."
and
And why shouldn't it be?
you, robertpr said: "Come on, I know you're smarter than that. It's true that it's easier to let someone else think for you, I guess. My question for you though is how do you know the coin wasn't authenticated by someone with brains made out of green baby poop?"
My reply:
It may have been authenticated by someone with brains made out of green baby poop, but, their opinion in the marketplace is the most widely respected
THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT
and that reason is why I rely upon their experience; if it's in a holder, that's good enough for me.
And it's good enough for the market place and that is objectively proveable.
(The reason why is because there is no expert that is better than the cumulative expertise in authenticating toning than PCGS and NGC. Do they make mistakes? Of course they do but that is not the issue. The issue is "would a reasonably prudent person rely on their expertise?"
(By the way, with regard to this discussion...'it's all good'.)
<< <i>Is Hell freezing over? or Did I get born to make you happy? Lemme know.
>>
It's not fair to the other 10,000+ forum members who abide by the rules and do not start threads with the intent to get some traffic on their ebay auctions. But I guess the people that think this includes everyone but them and their "special" coin will never understand their selfishness. Also I hate to say this but I agree with Doops assesment of the coin. mike
"would a reasonably prudent person rely on their expertise?"
I think the issue is do you use PCGS's opinion as a crutch or as a guide in forming your own opinion? You even admit that they do make mistakes, which is of course going to happen - they are human - so a prudent person would take that into consideration and form their own opinion of a coin taking into consideration their opinion. Usually I agree with them but if I don't that doesn't automatically make me wrong because "they are the experts".
Adrian, do you believe both coins you posted are NT? If these coins were raw what would your opinion be?
<< <i>That coin is not AT. I could get it slabbed just like anyone else.
EDITED to add that I suppose it could just be photography tricks. But really when was the last time you saw a naturally toned coin with pink in it?? >>
Nearly every day!
"Wars are really ugly! They're dirty and they're cold. I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole." Mary
<< <i>That coin is not AT. I could get it slabbed just like anyone else.
EDITED to add that I suppose it could just be photography tricks. But really when was the last time you saw a naturally toned coin with pink in it?? >>
Nearly every day! >>
I too have seen plenty of naturally toned coins with pink.
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Nice coin. Great photography!
Since no one answered your question, I will.
Of course. But be prepared to be attacked and accused of posting the picture for reasons other than simply sharing the image.
I have been attacked on numerous occasions.
People post images of all kinds of coins all the time. Why should you be any different?
However, personally I would appreciate it if you wouldn't hawk them here and please make sure there is some reason why you are posting an image of it. We see enough ugly, average coins with crappy images that we all feel obliged to compliment. "Oh, nice picture.....is that a Morgan?"
Camelot
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
Best Franklin Website
If Adrian can post threads about ebay coins is it okay for me and everyone else to do the same? I have half a dozen ebay color coins that I would love to get this type of exposure on. mike
So long as the poster is not hyping his coin for sale, there is no harm in posting images of coins that are for sale. In fact, untill you pointed it out, I would not have known this coin was for sale!
Personally, I don't really care if someone shows a nice coin as long as it's not overtly presented as a sale, and the forum doesn't become cluttered with that kind of stuff. I say overtly because if someone starts a thread about a coin that they have for sale...even if there's a lot of good information presented in such a thread...it's like an infomercial, ultimately an advertisement.
I enjoyed seeing this coin. I probably would have missed it in the BST forum.
This is my favorite Kennedy in my collection, and it is not for sale It has really nice luster and vibrant colors.
XpipedreamR- your coin is awesome! mike
My response without your signiture link: nice coin and beautiful pic.
We're very simple minded here if you give us the chance.
<< <i>"If it's for sale, somebody will find out and complain that it's posted here. And everyone will go look at the auction. And the rest of the seller's stuff. All publicity is good publicity
Personally, I don't really care if someone shows a nice coin as long as it's not overtly presented as a sale, and the forum doesn't become cluttered with that kind of stuff. I say overtly because if someone starts a thread about a coin that they have for sale...even if there's a lot of good information presented in such a thread...it's like an infomercial, ultimately an advertisement.
I enjoyed seeing this coin. I probably would have missed it in the BST forum." pipedreamdude
Great post XPD!
This is my favorite Kennedy in my collection, and it is not for sale It has really nice luster and vibrant colors.
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and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
Best Franklin Website
on the reverse, so...net? bout a $50 coin. maybe..
Who out there thinks that they could take that coin and submit it raw and get it slabbed? Anyone?
Is Hell freezing over? or
Did I get born to make you happy?
Lemme know.
My response without your signiture link: nice coin and beautiful pic.
We're very simple minded here if you give us the chance"
Why don't you just stop going to my eBay store? I never offered this coin for sale here....I just showed an image of it.
(I'll leave the comment regarding 'simple mindedness' to myself.)
EDITED to add that I suppose it could just be photography tricks. But really when was the last time you saw a naturally toned coin with pink in it??
Unless you made it, it's pretty hard to prove that something is not natural.
Everyone has an opinion. I have opinions but I don't generally allege that I know something is original.
My opinion is "if it's in an NGC or PCGS holder, that's good enough for me."
And why shouldn't it be?
Do we generally know more about toning that PCGS or NGC?
I don't care if a coin is worth $50 or $50,000,000; if the image is nice and the coin has some nice eye appeal I'm glad someone took the time to image it and then to share it here.
Adrian's images are some of the best in the business. Who gives a crap that he has an ebay business?
I don't see where he advertised or promoted this coin in any way. If Adrian posted all his images on the BST forums, I'd never get to enjoy them because I don't spend any time on the BST forum.
I could care less if there are dealers that want to post coin images on the US Coin Forums. Just do like Adrian did, post the image and don't mention the fact that the coin is for sale. I'm totally fine with that.
Go ahead dealers! Let's see you post some ANACONDA images of great coins!
Here's a cool coin....a good image (one that I made, of course...or I wouldn't show it) and of a pink coin....that I no longer own!
you probbly thought the open forum was tough at times.
I came in 10th place (out of 150) in the Gil Harder Memorial Biathalon in Abilene, Texas.....50 miles on a bicycle and then a full marathon after that. I completed it in 7 hours 25 minutes.
I've ridden a bronc.
I've hitchhiked across the US
I've ridden my motorcycle around the US
I finished my MBA and my law degree at the same time and
I've been married for almost 10 years.
(In Texas, it ain't braggin' if it's true.)
I'm closing in on 8. (I think it is).
Unless you made it, it's pretty hard to prove that something is not natural.
Everyone has an opinion. I have opinions but I don't generally allege that I know something is original.
My opinion is "if it's in an NGC or PCGS holder, that's good enough for me."
And why shouldn't it be?
Do we generally know more about toning that PCGS or NGC?
Adrian
I think what I said was "I'm calling that one AT" which is to say, I was not saying factually that it was or wasn't but that it is MY OPINION that it is. If I wasn't clear on that I apologise. For the record, it's MY OPINION that the other coin you posted is AT as well. Doesn't mean it's a bad coin though or one not worth owning.
>>My opinion is "if it's in an NGC or PCGS holder, that's good enough for me."<<
Come on, I know you're smarter than that. It's true that it's easier to let someone else think for you, I guess. My question for you though is how do you know the coin wasn't authenticated by someone with brains made out of green baby poop?
<< <i>Thanks.
Here's a cool coin....a good image (one that I made, of course...or I wouldn't show it) and of a pink coin....that I no longer own!
>>
Adrian
John Ashcroft's gonna be knockin' at your door with some drapery if he sees this coin -
BTW - Very nice pictures - both the Olympic and the Kennedy
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I said
"if it's in an NGC or PCGS holder, that's good enough for me."
and
And why shouldn't it be?
you, robertpr said: "Come on, I know you're smarter than that. It's true that it's easier to let someone else think for you, I guess. My question for you though is how do you know the coin wasn't authenticated by someone with brains made out of green baby poop?"
My reply:
It may have been authenticated by someone with brains made out of green baby poop, but, their opinion in the marketplace is the most widely respected
THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT
and that reason is why I rely upon their experience; if it's in a holder, that's good enough for me.
And it's good enough for the market place and that is objectively proveable.
(The reason why is because there is no expert that is better than the cumulative expertise in authenticating toning than PCGS and NGC. Do they make mistakes? Of course they do but that is not the issue. The issue is "would a reasonably prudent person rely on their expertise?"
(By the way, with regard to this discussion...'it's all good'.)
<< <i>Is Hell freezing over? or Did I get born to make you happy? Lemme know.
>>
It's not fair to the other 10,000+ forum members who abide by the rules and do not start threads with the intent to get some traffic on their ebay auctions. But I guess the people that think this includes everyone but them and their "special" coin will never understand their selfishness. Also I hate to say this but I agree with Doops assesment of the coin. mike
I think the issue is do you use PCGS's opinion as a crutch or as a guide in forming your own opinion? You even admit that they do make mistakes, which is of course going to happen - they are human - so a prudent person would take that into consideration and form their own opinion of a coin taking into consideration their opinion. Usually I agree with them but if I don't that doesn't automatically make me wrong because "they are the experts".
Adrian, do you believe both coins you posted are NT? If these coins were raw what would your opinion be?
snake does kinda get beatup round here
for some reason ive grown ta like him
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
<< <i>That coin is not AT. I could get it slabbed just like anyone else.
EDITED to add that I suppose it could just be photography tricks. But really when was the last time you saw a naturally toned coin with pink in it?? >>
Nearly every day!
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
Best Franklin Website
<< <i>
<< <i>That coin is not AT. I could get it slabbed just like anyone else.
EDITED to add that I suppose it could just be photography tricks. But really when was the last time you saw a naturally toned coin with pink in it?? >>
Nearly every day! >>
I too have seen plenty of naturally toned coins with pink.