1927 Morgan Counterfeit. Why? LOL

DHeath

OK, so you go to all the trouble to create this Frankenstein. Why not make it credible.

Link to Ebay UK.

Tassa

mojorizn

Oh, brother! This guy doesn't have a clue!

mojo

nwcs

I think the seller's ID is hilarious: agoodbuyfromme

lathmach

What, don't you think it's real?

Ray

coynclecter

He's got to be crazy..................12 bucks for a Morgan it THAT condition. I don't think so!!!!!

nwcs

Anyone want to buy this off of me?

XpipedreamR

How come every scambo says

<< <i>I AM NOT A COIN COLLECTOR PLEASE SEE PICTURES FOR YOUR OWN ASSESSMENT BEFORE BIDDING >>

or something to that effect?


Is it in the con artist handbook or something?





PS: Not that this guy is necessarily a con!

nwcs

>Is it in the con artist handbook or something?

You don't know? It's in the book 2 SCAMS 2:19

kamehameha00

You can see where "COPY" was scratched off.

drjules

But the seller has a pretty good feedback record, why risk a -ve?

Dr J

ss350camaro

<< <i> You can see where "COPY" was scratched off. >>



A copy of something that never existed in the first place ??

krazyace5

Whats the big deal? He says it is a copy in the auction.

sliderider

Someone may have done it to commemorate some anniversary or event as a gift for someone, or as a gag for a collector of Morgans. Nobody would ever believe this is legit if they know the date run of the Morgan dollar.

dorkkarl

it's not a copy, it's an altered date (1921).

K S

braddick

<< <i>it's not a copy, it's an altered date (1921). K S >>

Karl, check out "America" on the reverse. I have a contemporary counterfeit Morgan dated 1921 that looks exactly like this one. I believe it is a counterfeit with an altered date, or simply a counterfeit/fantasy dated 1927. Even the "2" in the date appears tooled.

dorkkarl

i think that more than just the date is tooled, but the primary obverse diagnostics perfectly match a 1921 hub.

if i were writing a story about this coin, i'd guess that somebody had desire to honor the year 1927 - maybe a birthday or anniversary or something? i doubt there was numismatically deceptive intent involved. what i'm saying is that this altered coin may be somewhat akin to a "love token".

actually, i kinda like it!

K S

dorkkarl

btw, as far as struck counterfeits go, it's not all that unusual for impossible dates to show up. there are many lettered-edge bust halves that are dated 1839 and even into the 1840's. but i don't think this morgan is a struck c/f, it's a real coin w/ alteration.

K S

dorkkarl

btw, as far as struck counterfeits go, it's not all that unusual for impossible dates to show up. there are many lettered-edge bust halves that are dated 1839 and even into the 1840's. but i don't think this morgan is a struck c/f, it's a real coin w/ alteration.

K S

jhar

coinguy1

Some of you guys are too tough and unfair in assuming the worst in people. I contacted the seller yesterday to let him know that his coin couldn't be a genuine 1927 Morgan dollar. He then promptly thanked me AND changed his listing.

There are plenty of scam artists out there and I love to make their lives more difficult. But, not everyone with a bogus item for sale is necessarily trying to screw someone.

ziggy29

<< <i>Some of you guys are too tough and unfair in assuming the worst in people. I contacted the seller yesterday to let him know that his coin couldn't be a genuine 1927 Morgan dollar. He then promptly thanked me AND changed his listing. >>



The problem is, had this seller not been honest and continued to represent this as genuine, and some poor sod bid good money on it thinking it was real, more likely than not, eBay does nothing. But now that he honestly represents what the item is, eBay will probably pull it.

earlwbollinger

Oooh. . . I really like that 2004 Liberty dollar.
Most Excellent Photoshopping there.

Conder101

<< <i> i don't think this morgan is a struck c/f, it's a real coin w/ alteration. >>


It is not an altered date, I have one of them.

Myqqy

Those pictures were a little bright for my taste........

ashmore

I'm working on a roll of these. Can you find me one in DMPL???

Ash

lordmarcovan

<< <i>You can see where "COPY" was scratched off. >>





<< <i>if i were writing a story about this coin, i'd guess that somebody had desire to honor the year 1927 - maybe a birthday or anniversary or something? i doubt there was numismatically deceptive intent involved. what i'm saying is that this altered coin may be somewhat akin to a "love token". >>


DK:

I think the area that looks like "COPY" was scratched out is actually some old glue. That and the marks on the rim indicate to me that the coin probably spent some time in a belt buckle mount. Perhaps some fella from the WW2 generation decided to have a Morgan dollar re-engraved with his birthyear (or created a fantasy copy of one), so he could wear it in his belt buckle?

Conder101

And it doesn't say copy above In God We Trust, it says Reproduction.

lava

One telling sign is the amount of circulation this coin shows. I don't think a copy would have circulated to get into this condition. So, it is probably just an altered date. It probably was a `93-s, but some genius didn't think that was rare enough, so attempted to make this pop. 1 coin.

UncleWiggly

<< <i>Whats the big deal? He says it is a copy in the auction. >>



Exactly and if it comes back up I am going to bid on it. I'd like to have a fake 1927 Morgan. Anybody else have one?


Jerry