Large & Half cents: what constitutes "RED" grade?

ohbaby

We have standards for DMPL and PL.

In looking at literally hundreds of MS65-66 PCGS & NGC large/half cents graded 'Red', I would say nearly 90% of them are RB and 5% more like BN.

Have so many turned in the slab?

And where are the true red MS65/66s? I have 3 and am hanging on as they are near impossible to find in true red. I am not talking about cinimmon red but copper pipe red with minimal spotting.

DMWJR

Here are my type coins for the large cent and half cent in red:

dorkkarl

i like both of those!

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earlwbollinger

Boy you don't see those every day.
Thanks for sharing such nice examples.

DMWJR

Thanks! I also have an 1835 1/2 cent in 64red, but no pics. I usually just collect unslabbed circs of these old coppers because I like them. I'm very content with one red example of each. The pics of these are a little more orange than the coins actually are. I bought one of them at auction, and the other from DHRC!

DMWJR

Legend also has a nice 56 in 64red on their site for sale.

291fifth

If the coin isn't fully red you should not buy it as red regardless of what the holder says. Standards for red have tightened as prices have risen. Be selective.

ohbaby

Nice examples!

Is it possible many have turned in the holder or as someone else mentioned the standards have loosened? I have seen some real doggy RB that were not even close.

mrcommem

MS64 red in my type set

1907Quarter

I would say that those two coins that started this thread are..................red.

DMWJR

Ohbaby, I have seen several that HAD to have turned in the holder due to improper storage. Like 291fifth said, you have to go by what you see in the holder.