I know this is coins, but I found possibly Paleolithic Pottery. I know, OT, sorry

hamiltonjh

Pix and explination posted in metal detecting forum, because I found it WHILE metal detecting. But, here are the pix.

This first one is a square piece that from the front, doesn't look so special. The pic next to it is obviously from the side. notice it's smooth and curved. They used shells, among other things, to put designs in the clay.



This triangular piece has a different pattern, obviously, but is also curved as you can see from the profile shot. It's also smooth on the inside.


I know...OT.....sorry.

AuldFartte

(Hambooger's not excited at all, is he )

sumnom

Ham, this is not something that I know much about but the piece with the parallel lines looks similar to the comb pattern pottery found in a number of archaeological sites in northern Korea and Liaodong. I didn't think that culture spread to Japan but one never knows.

hamiltonjh

On the basis of archaeological finds, it has been postulated that hominid activity in Japan may date as early as 200,000 BC...the islands were connected to the Asian mainland. Although some scholars doubt this early date for habitation, most agree that by around 40,000 BC REFERENCE

theboz11

Some guy on the Open forum found the same thing,, now what are the chances of that

hamiltonjh

I think it would be neat to have found a good site that Japanese archaeologists could search in and learn more abotu this area.

According to archeological evidence, the Jômon people created the earliest pottery in the World, dated to the 11th millennium BC.

laurentyvan

Can we assume that hand made (i.e. manufactured) goods in that time period would have been valuable barter/trade goods, used as we use coins today? See, it's all connected... don't know where you're going to get it slabbed though.

hamiltonjh

<< <i>... don't know where you're going to get it slabbed though. >>




I'd say since they're shards, PO01 would be out of the question too.

good question. From what I've read tonight, these people were not nomadic, so I dont think they traveled much. Perhaps they sent out expeditions or from time to time went out bartering and did, in fact, use their manufactured goods for trade.

BigAlan

Can we assume that hand made (i.e. manufactured) goods in that time period would have been valuable barter/trade goods, used as we use coins today?

There is evidence that some stone tools were made from stone that was mined 100's of miles from where the tools were found.

Askari

Amazing!! It looks like you have the real McCoy! Your prospecting really turned up a treasure! :thumbsup. I hope you noted where they were found so you can lead your prefectural archaeologists to the site.

hamiltonjh

Yeah, I know exactly where I found it, down to the very spot. Once I go there again, I have no doubt I'll be able to go right to the spot. I may miss a turn or two on the way, but once I'm out there again, I'm positive it'll come back to me.

the hard part appears to be finding a prefectural office to talk to. there should be something in Aomori, but I havnt found one yet. Naoko is going to have to get online and do a search for me, and call I'm sure.

Aethelred

Hey, thats not a coin!










Just kidding, that is a very cool find!

phut

Cool find Hamilton
I may be overstating the obvious but have you gone to a local museum with the pieces?

ColinCMR

That's really interesting!

hamiltonjh

<< <i>...have you gone to a local museum with the pieces? >>



Naoko found a website/phone number of an active archaeological site in Aomori City that has a museum, about 1 1/2 hrs north of here. On Monday, she's going to call and try to find someone I can show the pieces to.

Thanks Colin!