What would you do if you found a ddr rpm that didn't exist?

eyoung429

Who do you contact
Is it more of a rarity to have the reverse doubled?
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw it's not a penny!

richbeat

You can't go wrong contacting Bill Fivaz or J.T. Stanton. CONECA, maybe? They cover errors and varieties. There are others.

DesertRat

If I found something that didn't exist I would begin to doubt my sanity!

JRocco

Is there any way you could post a picture so we can see it?

Wolf359

Clearly, you need to contact someone who's familiar with the coin series in question. If it's a Morgan dollar, they go to Leroy Van Allen.

First though, post a photo. I'm sure a number of forum members would help you.

eyoung429

Here's a tease.....trying to get more pics

Warning no photoshop at home...pic is big

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/eyoung429/14e57bf3.jpg

coppercoins

I think I'd be safe to bet that if it's a nice one you just haven't seen about it. There are thousands of different die varieties in "the files" that have never been published.

It's also a relatively safe bet that if it's minor it could be a new discovery and should be viewed by a knowledged individual.

I, however, being the skeptic that I am, would vote for machine doubling if the DDR/RPM both have equal spreads in the same direction. You probably have a silver quarter or half dollar and are seeing some doubling on and around the mintmark area. Here's a clue...the design is fully impressed into the die and the die complete before the mintmark ever touches the die. Hub doubling NEVER includes the mintmark on any coin minted before 1990 (except for proofs back to 1985). Since you have a reverse mintmark, my bet is 1964 or before. Since you mention DDR and RPM as if they are together in manufacture, I have a sneaking suspition you're looking at machine doubling. Sorry.

coppercoins

Yup, right on. Looks like a Franklin half, and looks like machine doubling. Bummer.

eyoung429

here's some more:

The coin in question is the rev of a 1959 D Franklin Half that I had sitting with a bunch of others that I was going to give out on Halloween, but had to take a closer look as the mintmark caught my eye.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/eyoung429/1959 error franklin/doublesof1959rev.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/eyoung429/1959 error franklin/doubledtesrev1959.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/eyoung429/1959 error franklin/1959errorfranklinobv.jpg

eyoung429

<< <i>Yup, right on. Looks like a Franklin half, and looks like machine doubling. Bummer. >>



DANG!!! never even posted the other pics and he has the coin down to almost the year!!!!!

Why a bummer on the machine doubling.....isn't that rarer than just a rpm? Or am I just confused as to having ddr ???

Please be patient as I have only been at this for a short time.

richbeat

Machine doubling.

coppercoins

Machine doubling is a very common occurrence, described in better terms as the die bouncing while the coin is being struck leaving a double impression behind. In some years of some series it's almost hard to find a cleanly struck coin - seems they had a lot of problems with the presses. Doubled dies are quite a bit tougher to find, they are the result of the actual design on the die showing doubling, which is usually caught and destroyed before the die has a chance to make coins...the dies that are doubled (enough to notice) and actually make coins comprise of a rather small percentage of all the dies used for any given year or mint.

coppercoins

Sorry...didn't completely answer your question. The doubling you see is neither a DDR nor an RPM. It's all caused by die bounce in the coining press. Very common and not worth a premium.

eyoung429

Thank you very much for the information....


Still, it's a cool find and I will stash it away....

eyoung429

<< <i>Sorry...didn't completely answer your question. The doubling you see is neither a DDR nor an RPM. It's all caused by die bounce in the coining press. Very common and not worth a premium. >>



You have a PM...and thanks again!