Kennedy Half on quarter planchet

skingspan

I have a box of misc. coins(mostly foriegn) that I have accumulated over the years and every now and then I look go though the box to pick out anything intesting that I have learned about in the different areas of coin collecting. As I was going through the box today I found what looks like a Kennedy half struck on a quarter planchet. I have no idea where it came from. It looks pretty worn and has some stuff on it bit I think it is a pretty neet find it it is in-fact an error. I have attached pics below anyone. What would something like this be valued at?

Thanks
Steve

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ms70

Send it in for certification. Error experts here can tell you better than me but it's my understanding that a dated error is worth more. If it's
certified as a "full" silver planchet then it's certainly a 1964 with or without the date showing. It's an interesting piece. Here's a good error coin
website: Rich Schemmer's Error Coin Website

nwcs

I think it is the real deal. I'd send it to be slabbed to be sure. As for price, got me. Based on some prices I saw my guess is around $200-500 if genuine.

ms70

It just so happens that Rick Schemmer has a '64 Kennedy on a quarter planchet for sale. It's listed for $1050.

Check it out here.

Rampage

I would say expect less than $250.00 for it because it looks like it has glue residue and it does not appear to be uncirculated, although it could just be the lighting. Most error collectors would not pay full retail for damaged error coins. JMO.

ms70

Those spots might only be that ugly greenish toning that sometimes appears.

TheNumish

You should try using some acetone on that coin to take the green stuff off. If it doesn't work it wont hurt the coin. Just put some on a q-tip and gently rub it on the coin. If you don't have acetone nail polish remover will work. 99% of nail polish remover is acetone with a dab of smell nice stuff.

By the way very cool coin. Congrats on the discovery.

nwcs

Nail polish remover won't be good. It leaves residue behind. Pure acetone is the only way to go. It only costs a few bucks from Walmart.

LindeDad

I think sombody toke it to a shop grinder from the picture looks like reeding on only part of it. Plus it's way out of round.

skingspan

When I put the coin next to a quarter is is definately the same size but seems to be a bit thinner. I also do not see a copper layer when I look at the edge of the coin. I don not think it is silver though. The reeding does not go all the way around: Starts between the L & I in liberty and goes clockwise to the B in liberty.

Thanks

Rampage

It would be impossible for the reeding to go all the way around since the planchet is smaller than the die chamber. It is not perfectly round for the same reason. This coin looks as it should for an off metal.

Skingspan, How is the luster? Is it dull like a circulated coin or is it bright? Let us know if you try to clean it with the acetone.

skingspan

The coin is pretty dull, no luster whatsoever. I have never dipped a coin so I probably won't be dipping it. Any idea what it appears to be thinner than a quarter?

Rampage

PM being sent in a minute.....

Rampage

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tmot99

I wouldn't worry about using nail polish remover. Yes, it has other stuff in it, but we are not talking an MS coin here. This has obviously been circulated so there already are oils and dirt on the coin. A little more isn't going to hurt the coin in any way. The acetone might remove the gunk and leave behind a slight invisible residue.

Also, the above referenced Kennedy half on quarter error for $1050 appears to be a non-circulated coin which would bring substantial premium over yours.

skingspan

Thank You all for the info. Pretty cool find for something I didn't even know I had.

Steve

seanq

I'm not totally convinced on this one yet. Have you weighed it, and does it weigh the same as a silver quarter? Even if you could make a simple popsicle-stick balance with a silver quarter on one side and your half on the other, that would tell you if it is close.

Weight is a much better indicator than diameter when it comes to authenticating these things. It would be pretty easy for someone to alter the diameter down to that of a quarter, but much trickier to alter the weight. I would actually expect it to be slightly larger than a quarter in diameter, since there is no collar to hold the planchet in shape.


Sean Reynolds

DHeath

Perhaps this coin will be useful for comparison.

25¢ on 10¢ planchet.

TheNumish

DHeath,

I don't think that's a quarter struck on a dime planchet. It's a quarter planchet cut from a sheet meant for dimes. The planchet was the correct diameter but was thinner since it was meant for a dime. Pretty cool coin. I would have bought it for $85 and broken it out. That one can't be appreciated in the holder.

ms70

<< <i>DHeath,

I don't think that's a quarter struck on a dime planchet. It's a quarter planchet cut from a sheet meant for dimes. The planchet was the correct diameter but was thinner since it was meant for a dime. Pretty cool coin. I would have bought it for $85 and broken it out. That one can't be appreciated in the holder. >>



I think you're right. They refer to it as "ON 10c STOCK". The circumference is too big to have been a dime planchet.

TheNumish

Just for fun here is my quarter struck on a dime planchet--I think. Still researching this one.

TommyB

while you are talking about JFK errors, what do you think about this one. I have one that is considerably thinner than any other JFK. The attached photo accurately depicts the thinner JFK. It is pretty much the thickness of a quarter, but is a nice looking half

tom

cladking

<< <i>while you are talking about JFK errors, what do you think about this one. I have one that is considerably thinner than any other JFK. The attached photo accurately depicts the thinner JFK. It is pretty much the thickness of a quarter, but is a nice looking half

tom

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Looks like a half struck on quarter stock cut to half dollar size. There was a small
bunch of these in the early '90's if memory serves.

ms70

<< <i>Just for fun here is my quarter struck on a dime planchet--I think. Still researching this one. >>



Struck on a nickel planchet possibly? It's struck up pretty well and a nice coin at that! Did you find it in circulation?

TheNumish

The 1965 qtr weighs within .1 gram of a dime. It's just very thin. Bought it this weekend at a coin show.

DHeath

Thanks Numish. I believe you're right.

skingspan

Has anyone ever used coneca's attribution service for error coins? I was thinking of sending my coin into them. It is cheaper than sending to a certification service.

Monstavet

I have to disagree with the majority here...based on those pictures, this one has been cut down by someone. Probably weren't trying to fool anyone...probably just messing around in the shop one day. JMHO.