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I think this 1793 cent is overgraded...

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  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love ANACS liberal use of "net details." The VF-12 might be fair, certainly looks better than G.
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    I have no idea how copper guys keep from going blind. Here are the pics, slightly lightened. image

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    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • GonfunkoGonfunko Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    <<I have no idea how copper guys keep from going blind. Here are the pics, slightly lightened. >>



    If I stand up, I can see "black circle" pictures fairly well on my monitor.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are the pics, slightly lightened.

    Don, you are taking all the fun out of it. image Howdya do that?
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    RYK,

    I NEVER look at coins in online auctions without my graphics editor loaded, and I always drag the image to the program for a good look under magnification. When I look at one where the color is funky, I also color balance. It helps sometimes. image With copper and dark photos, I just lighten them till I can really see the coin.
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    That's the one beef I have with ANACS net grading. It seems like almost any problem, unless unbelievably extreme, automatically "net grades" one full grade lower. Often that's about right, but sometimes there are reasons to net grade otherwise.

    If a "VF details" coin is corroded, cleaned, horribly scratched and almost everything else, it should usually NOT be worth problem-free F-12 money. Bad enough, someone would be lucky to get G-4 money for it.

    On the other hand, there can be a very minor cleaning, a small scratch, a minor recolorations or other single, small defect on an "VF details" coin that's "net F-12" in a series where F-12 goes for $300 and VF-20 goes for $900. In this case a "net grade" is probably considerably *less* than what someone would pay for an ALMOST problem-free VF that got bagged for a minor defect. (In principle, they should net this as F-15, and I guess sometimes they do, but it's usually a full-grade deduction.)



  • Another outstanding HNAI photo. I think Heritage is great, but hope that if I continue bashing their photos they will fix the problem.

    Jack
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    the net grade seems a bit strong, but that is by no means a bad coin.

    K S
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think someone at Heritage likes "Junior Mints." They use em for stock photos.

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    The devices sure show a lot of details.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!

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