1922 high relief peace dollar question

techeff

How do you recognize one? What are the diagnostics? Thanks!

Peaceman

There's a lot of information on the web about it, just do a search.... They look NOTHING like a normal business strike Peace dollar. If you held one in your hand, you'd question if it was genuine.....

MrEureka

NGC certified a circ business strike, so there are probably at least two sets of dies.

Conder101

The thing I key on is the spike just to the right of the E in LIBERTY. Like the 21 high relief (see picture) that spike does not extend above the bottom bar of the E.

On the low relief coins it almost reaches the bottom of the middle bar of the E. This is would be identifiable even on low grade coins

sliderider

Conder,

Good eye spotting that ray. Was that something you noticed on your own, or is there a book that covers that?


BTW, I don't know if all high relief Peace Dollars are like this, because I only own one, but when you look at it from the edge, the obverse (on mine at least) appears slightly dished in the center. High Relief coins also don't stack very well. Just ask anyone who's tried stacking on top of a high relief Saint. I think that some of the design elements on high relief coins may actually be higher than the rim, which is why they don't stack.

FrattLaw

Here's a pic from Heritage.....




I've seen one in person and the coin is just amazing. It really is what it was suppose to look like.

Michael

Conder101

On my own. There are books that have described the differences but usually they just talk about the differences in relief. the few that do talk about the hub differences keep talking about a difference in the count or arrangement of the spikes but for that you need another coin to compare and pictures can be hard to learn from for the count. Once you know about that spike by the E though you can identify high or low relief at a glance on coins of any condition.

TUMUSS

That is one SWEET ARSE 22

MrEureka

Does anyone know the diagnostics for the business strike 22 high relief?

bigtonydallas

How rare is the 22 high relief? How much of a premium does it bring?

XpipedreamR

<< <i>How rare is the 22 high relief? How much of a premium does it bring? >>





Here's one...

Nocerino18

I would say that is a serious premium "$51k".


Are there any 22 High Relief non proofs?

techeff

Please take my name off this thread. I stopped collecting silver months ago...

kellymac

Hey, thanks for that quick diagnostic! There are a lot of articles, pictures, etc., on the web, but very confusing for a newbie.

Ever since I took an interest in coins, I'm recalling where I stashed away random coins I've come across. My sister gave my son a 1922 peace dollar when he was 3, so we researched it, but got confused over high relief, low relief, matte, satin, proof, and so on--too many combinations! The coin has a lovely satiny finish, but is definitely a low relief as I now can see! The satin look is probably just age, but it's pretty--an even gold tone. It looks a lot better than this one fer sure:

ebay 1922 peace dollar

. . . now if I could just find that steel cent I got in change a few years ago . . .

Thanks again!

PutTogether

hahahah. that is one ugly "MS67"

Conder101

<< <i>Are there any 22 High Relief non proofs? >>


I believe there has been one piece certified.

MAD4MORGANS

Great tip Conder101!!

Your way of identifying the high relief makes perfect sense to me!!

I suppose if there's only so much metal in the planchet and the higher it is in the center after it's struck means there's less of it available to flow to other details such as that ray.

Conder101

The height of the refielf and the metal flow have nothing to do with the length of the ray. The two types actually have different hub designs. That ray is just a quick easy place to spot one of the differences. The actual number and arrangement of the long and short rays differ between the two designs, but why study the ray arangement or count them when you can just look at the one by the E?

kranky

I remember seeing a 1922 matte proof Peace dollar at a Baltimore show that was so spectacular it really looked like a modern reproduction. Fantastic coin.