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keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
While at the recent ANA Convention I spoke with quite a few members who think similarly that it's just a matter of time before PCGS et. al. decide it's time for another strike qualifier to be added to an issue, only which one?? What makes me shake my head is the simple thought that had I known in 1990 what I know today I would be retired and living the life-of-luxury.

So what will the New Designation be?? A qualifier for Washington Quarters at the breast or feet?? Something like ST on Buffalos for the tail??

Al H.image

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  • Didn't AH copyright a whole bunch of different designations? full beak for quarters, full horn for buffalos, etc.?

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If Marty has his way, it'll be "FW", for "Full Winkie" on Cook Islands God of Fertility dollars! image

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Al: How about a strike designation qualifyer for Walking Liberty Halves (if they don't already have one)... for the hand (thumb) and perhaps also Miss Liberty's head?

    I know that walkers are very popular coins...

    Edited to add: If they want to makes lot$ of money they may create a strike designation for Morgan Dollars like for breast feathers, wreath and/or hair over Liberty's Ear image

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  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    I'll reiterate my feeling that it's time for a "FS" (Full Strike) qualifier for all coins. Obviously, different coins would have different criteria, but this gobbly-gook of FH, FSB, FBL, etc. has got to end.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cdwegner- yes. Accugrade had "trademark" designations like "FEB" for "Full Eagle's Beak" on Washington quarters. And some other seemingly wacky ones.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Flaminio-

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  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
    I don't know what a designation could be for Washington Quarters. To me their the hardest to grade out of all U.S. Coins.

    Oh Keets, I saw your Jefferson Nickels yesterday and didn't get a chance to respond. So I'll do it here.
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  • I noticed that alot of the buffalo nickels i've seen are very weakly struck, there should be something designated for those, maybe lincoln cents since they're so darn popular(if RD, RB, BR doesn't already count), maybe something for walking libertys strike also, I noticed that liberty on the obverse always looks quite weak. Maybe they should have something for the Barber series. I bet they'll do something for the Washington quarter though, like "Full Wings".
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    while a designation for "Full Strike" in the form of FS on any issue's insert seems logical to collectors, it isn't real good for the revenue stream at the various grading companies.

    al h.image
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    FH (Full Hair) for Kennedy Halves.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hear ya keets. I remember back in the mid 80's while picking up some Jeffs, being asked if the steps were real important to me. MY response was--NOT REALLY--- what an A$$ I was. I think quarters are prime for some kind of further designation, what it may be, I have no idea.
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  • There's always FU for SBA dollars... Full Ugly...
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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about keeping what they have & knocking off the nonsense.

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  • Here`s some ideas:

    Peace Dollar - FS - Full Strike ( or something similar to it it because of mushy strikes. )
    Lincoln Cents - FS - Full Steps
    $20 St Gaudans - FF - Full Figured ( Ok, probably wouldn`t work but, worth a try.image )

    That`s all I can think of for now.image
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm with flamino on this one ... FS for full strike (on everything)

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would be nice to see a strike desgnation on all coins but not just the fully struck coins. There
    should be a percent of full strike or an equivalent for coins but the market and graders don't seem
    to be ready for it yet.

    FT (full talons) on Washingtons or FS (full steps) on Lincolns may be next though there are other
    possibilities.
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll reiterate my feeling that it's time for a "FS" (Full Strike) qualifier for all coins. Obviously, different coins would have different criteria, but this gobbly-gook of FH, FSB, FBL, etc. has got to end.

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    I also would say that the binary choice of "is it full strike, or not, yes or no, does it "make" the designation or not" is unrealistic, and what we really need is an evaluation of percent of full strike that takes into account the whole coin, not one specific area such as the bands or the steps or the bell lines (because, although those areas are generally good indicators of quality of strike, they are not the whole story)

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Mr Hall doesnt like the conceipt of PQ , so maybe FS will be acceptable.

    You would still have the problems of poor color, poor luster, marks

    in promenant location and poor overall appearance.

    A coin could be FS and really be quite fugly.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it should be O/S original surfaces that should be used for circulated coins (especially high end) that are original. This is long overdue and frankly, I am disappointed it has not happened yet. But then again...

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  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭
    A qualifier for Washington Quarters at the breast or feet??

    Don't say that! If it happens, I quit!image

    Well probably not, but I doubt I'll be out there looking for those qualifiers for my Washington set.

    Since you're on the subject, I've often heard talk that the full hand on the WLH should be recognized. As for the Washington, I think it would be really difficult to put a set together where all the coins have full feet on the eagle. JMO as always.

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Full feet just seems to be much ado about nothing. When we start to quibble about feet and claws

    and eyebrows and such, it really does not seem to be of much value to us collectors. I still believe

    that sooner or later, we will see PCGS go to a PQ designation. That will cause such a flood of regrades,

    that Mr Hall will have to go back on the line full time to grade.
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  • PQ ala NGC's *?
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