Thank you Mirabela

Bochiman

Ya know,

I almost made a big mistake today.
There is a coin that I am wanting that is a bit out of the price I want to pay right now, so I was doing that bad thing of "stepping down" a notch.
I saw one come up on ebay within range (~$25 to start bidding and ~$35 for BIN).
EDIT: I relooked at the particular auction (I have been looking at a lot of them for 1968 PCGS slabbed coins lately). The correct price was $9.95 and $25 BIN. Sorry, but I would NOT buy from poe even at the $9.95 price

I honestly came really close to pulling the BIN trigger, but as I verified a few things (terms/policies, etc.....something jumped out at me....SELLER!!!).

Now, if you hadn't posted your experience with poe, I may have gone ahead and done it. But, since you posted, and he came to "defend" himself (with catfish's help), I made up my mind to not even come close to buying from him.

It wasn't worth the potential hassle.

So, thank you Matt.......I, at least, have benefited from your misfortunes.
I should also thank catfish and poe as well....if they hadn't come on to defend themselves the way they had, I still might have bought the coin and just thought it was a personal issue between the 2 of you....but the way poe and catfish have carried on, I am quite sure it wouldn't be an isolated instance.

Edit for auction info to show the auction/seller I will stay away from:
Auction that I won't buy from due to seller's apparent dishonesty, hostility, and stupidity

catfish172

<< <i>I should also thank catfish and poe as well....if they hadn't come on to defend themselves the way they had, >>



I had no horse in that race.

TonedCoinTrader

Smart Move Bochiman!

EVillageProwler

Didn't poe write something to the effect that any PR is good PR? Guess not in this case...

EVP

Russ

<< <i>I had no horse in that race. >>



No, you were just the pooper scooper.

Russ, NCNE

Myqqy

Didn't poe write something to the effect that any PR is good PR?

He did. I thought it was an odd comment. I've never heard a coin dealer say that having people believe he sells cleaned and overgraded material, and refuses returns, is good for business.....

catfish172

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<< <i>I had no horse in that race. >>



No, you were just the pooper scooper.

Russ, NCNE >>



Now that is humorus! I give you 's for that one. But really, I had nothing to gain or lose from that transaction. Nor in the lack of the referenced one not occuring.

Coinerww

Good thinking Bochiman!

Newmismatist

Hmmm - Poe has a "MS63/64" 1928 Peace dollar listed on ebay - with the usual "High resolution scan". That "High resolution scan" looks a bit AUish to me - (but the scans are sooo good, that's it's hard to tell - it could be a "GEM BU" )

Linky to another "wonderful" Poe "MS" coin

As far as "having "No horse in that race", all one has to do is read Catfsh's strident "Defense" of Poe in the original thread to know on which "Horse" Catfish bet the farm. On the other hand, as that thread has over 500 posts, don't bother. Suffice it to say that ANACS determined the coin that Poe sold was seriously overgraded and ultimately Pay-pay or ebay (I forget which one) forced Poe to refund Mirabela's money. Catfish lost his bet "in that race".

ss350camaro

I totally agree. I have come across several of his auctions recently from a particular search, and decided against the bid or purchase because of his rediculous return/insurance terms, and his attitude here on the board.

In his case the PR was definately not good PR.

buffnut

To Poe's credit though, he has changed and clarified his return policy in his auctions. If nothing positive ever comes from the board discussions, then at least this effort was made. Not a defensive or offensive statement- just facts.

Sequitur

Catfish writes:

I had no horse in that race.

More dissembling by a proven fraud. Why don't you lecture us again on auction ethics? We need your tutelage -- really we do.

tjkillian

I need that coin too! I bought one off of my son who won it in Frattlaw's contest. Now he wants it back so I have to get a new one. I will just wait for the Long Beach coin show to try and pick one up.

Thanks for the heads up.

Tom

mirabela

You're welcome!