waverly82

jason045

So, did anyone here pony up for the crazy money this guy gets for his raw stuff? I gave the McRae IA and the Kendall a shot, but at $60+ and $20+ respectively, they were just too rich for my blood. This guy has good stuff, but this is insane.

wolfbear

He does sell a lot of stuff.

highend

i made a run for a few cards, put a serious bid in for the mcrae ia. i didn't want to go higher because the top to bottom centering was a little off and i didn't want to take a chance on owning another 75 dollar PSA 7.....i've had no luck in submitting mcrae ia's. 0-3, i think.
brad horton won the mcrae ia and i was glad to see that.
a few weeks ago i won a mint 78 topps set from him, the cards were so nice it would bring a tear to the eye of the most discerning collector. i'm hoping for at least 70-80 psa 9's and a few 10's. for less than 200 bucks, i expect a better yield than any 78 vending box.

FB

Yeah,

I had a bunch of lowball snipe bids in on the Waverly auctions. No winners, but I was a bridesmaid on about 25 of them. Figured if I could win em cheap - it would make up for not being able to hold the card in my hand first!

Oh well... more cash for The Fort!

miami3

I too am shocked at the numbers that Waverly (Eric) has been able to get for his "Raw" cards on ebay.

His stuff is nice if you are putting together a nrmt to mt raw set in binders, but if you want to get it graded I think that you will be dissapointed as most will get 7's or maybe some 8's.

But I think that this is true for all ebay sellers who sell raw material, as grading is very subjective to the person who is trying to sell the card.

..........................Just my two cents.

mcastaldi

Miami> I think buying raw cards with the intent to submit them is always a risk-and-reward proposition. You have to ask yourself "Can I live with it if this card comes back a grade (or two) lower than what I'm hoping for?". If that happens, how will I feel about paying $X for the card? Buying the cards from eBay where you have only a scan to go by only increases the risk side of the equation.

Let's take the raw 72T McRae IA that Waverly put up. It went for $67.02. At that price, I'd have to be VERY sure in my mind that the card would come back an 8NQ or better - just to break even. If I was totally confident that the card would unquestionably make an 8 and have a chance at a 9, I might be inclined to pay the $67 if I needed the card. The risk could be worth the potential upside of a 9. But if I felt it only had a chance at an 8, there's no way. For a raw card on eBay, I think the buyer of this card is taking a very big risk that the card is perfect and has a shot at a 9. If Waverly missed a surface wrinkle, the buyer paid $67 for a PSA5. I have every reason to believe the card is advertised, but the level of risk stays the same.

I hope it works out for the buyer. As long as he's happy, that's all that matters. Historically, the McRae IA has been a $60-$70 card in PSA8 NQ. So the sale price of the raw card surprised me a bit. Does anyone know why Waverly didn't submit these on his own?

Mike

purelyPSA

A few months back I bought three cards from Waverly: two that he graded NM/MT and one that was graded Mint. I got 2 7's and an 8. Exactly one grade lower.

highend

i've been dealing with eric for a few years and lately his prices have been exploding. i'm sure this has alot to do with customer satisfaction. he is a true gentleman, any time i had an issue with a card i thought was overgraded or if he missed something i always received a refund.
from what i've bought from him, i've had psa 10's graded and my share of expensive psa 7's.
buying raw from anyone is usually a calculated risk, but lately the prices of his auctions have become to high and usually not worth the risk.
"back in the day" i paid 66 bucks for a 72 mays and mays ia that both graded 8 , less than 50 bucks for a 72 rose that graded an 8 and less than a hundred bucks for a common lot of 72's that yielded a couple of 10's and a bunch of 9's, those days are gone....

mcastaldi

highend> The bargains are out there if you are able to dig them up. My Aaron IA was picked up for ~$10 raw at a show - became a PSA8. Picked up a Mays IA for about the same. Obviously it helps to be able to go to major shows.

Mike