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Some grades with mixed results.

keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
These were submitted for sets I have and some for sale. My grade estimate is aside each coin and comments are below each coin. Fell free to laugh at the misses!!!image

Al H.image

1 21629831 1973 5C USA MS64FS---MS66FS
2 21629832 1992-D 5C USA MS65FS---MS66FS
3 21629833 1996-D 5C USA MS65FS---MS66FS
I'll have to look these over closely. I tend to screen Jeff's pretty well and these dates aren't difficult to find.

4 21629834 2004-D 5C Peace Medal USA MS66---MS66
This was a mark free coin I pulled from two rolls shortly after they were issued. Nice and frosty luster.

5 21629835 1976 25C Clad USA MS65---MS66
I continue to be unable to holder an MS66 Washington!!! This coin is pristine.

6 21629836 1965 50C USA Artificial Color---??????
A submission I made for my neighbor. He refuses to listen and thinks anything with pretty color will holder.

7 21629837 1976 50C Clad USA MS64---MS66
Very nice blue-gray toning will fill a hole nicely regardless of the grade.

8 21629838 1978 50C USA MS64---MS66
9 21629839 1978-D 50C USA MS66---MS66
Both the 78's look identical and came from a folder with wonderful multi-color bullseye tone.

10 21629840 1971-D $1 USA MS65---MS66
I have a few more of these and they all look the same with pretty blue-gray rim tone. They all seem to grade the same, too!!! DOH.

11 21629841 1972 $1 Type 1 USA AU58---MS63
What the..........have I ascended to HisMadnesses throne???? Woe is me.

12 21629842 1968-S 50C USA PR68DC---PR69DCAM
13 21629843 1969-S 50C USA PR69DC---PR69DCAM
As with lines 8-9, these two were indistinguishable from one another, black and white monsters.

Date Received: 06/14/2004
Date Shipped: 08/23/2004

Comments

  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I'm glad you fessed up on the AU58. It has been almost 8 months since I have gotten one, I'm glad to see you contracted the dreaded AU58s away from me!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>12 21629842 1968-S 50C USA PR68DC---PR69DCAM
    13 21629843 1969-S 50C USA PR69DC---PR69DCAM
    As with lines 8-9, these two were indistinguishable from one another, black and white monsters. >>



    Not completely indistinguishable. The 1968-S has a much lower pop and much higher market value in 69DCAM. Not that I think PCGS would ever consider that when granting the grade. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Keets,

    I wouldn't feel too bad about the Ike either. Rub is almost impossible to see on a coin you'd grade 63 anyway. Usually, the Eagle head is the tell. image
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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome to the Modern world of madness. They are tough on the 04's. I've made a few of the 04d"s Peace's in 67 and can't understand why several others went 66. Even more nuts are the 04 Kennedy halves. Several of my 67's looked like 65's and several of my 66's ended up 67's. I was so sure I had a 68 that ended up 66??? I'm also sure I have a Texas D quarter that will go 69.......Watch it end up a 67.
  • I was just wailing on another thread about my attempts at putting together a PCGS MS67 series of statehood 25c. It must have been sheer serendipity when I pulled 4 MS68 Connecticuts on my first 2 submissions. Then, when I try REALLY HARD to find a coin (GA-D) to grade a meager 67, I just keep gettin' slapped around! I even bickered with Mr. Hall a bit on Thursday about my latest submission - a walk through, no less, from the PANS show..2 Georgia --Ds, 2 MS66s - I think my shoulders slumped noticeably when I opened the box at the table. It would have completed 1999.....2000 is already done. I have at least 6 quarters in MS58 from my first 2 submissions........why must everybody laugh at my mighty sword?
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Don

    the thing with those '72 Ikes is the bag marks added to the planchet flaws that show through any toning. i know the area you're talking about, that high wing/head area almost dead center on the reverse. this Ike has nice luster, evidentally they thought it circulated for a short period.

    one point missed grades don't mean a whole lot, mainly it just shows a difference of opinion between two observers which is miniscule. what happens that sucks is when that one point is viewed in the sense that Russ alluded to, where market grading adds up to $$$$$$.

    al h.image
  • Al - I heard that PCGS (or maybe NGC) had a forum at the show to discuss what they look for when grading each type coin. Did you happen to attend? I remember talking to somebody who was there. I imagine that discussion could have gone on forever! When I look at these 2 coins closer - I see that the coin with nary a mark...not even on that big ol' peach...is a softer strike than the other coin, which has just a couple of small marks, but a much stronger strike.
    Don't you know that it's worth
    every treasure on Earth
    to be young at heart?
    And as rich as you are,
    it's much better by far,
    to be young at heart!

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