What's a conder?

BowTieCoins

Katrina

BAJJERFAN

Conder appears mostly to be a last name.

ccr

Condors where tokens that where locally made because of a lack of an adaquate circulation of of legal currency. From my understanding, that was their purpose. To alleviate shortages of legal currency.

BowTieCoins

Anyone know what country or countries did this? Dates?

Thanks again & to the responses,

Katrina

BAJJERFAN

The tokens are named after their creator James Conder.

BowTieCoins

Was James Conder the designer or did he produce them or both?

Katrina

AuldFartte

Lots of threads about Conder tokens on the World & Ancient Coins Forum here.

They were first catalogued by James Conder, a collector and drapery manufacturer in England. They typically were made in the late 1700's in England, Ireland and Scotland, the majority being from England.

Hope this helps, but go to the World coin forum for a lot more information

cosmicdebris

See sig

jom

<< <i>What's a conder? >>



It's a bird.

jom

BowTieCoins

It's a bird.

Hope this helps, but go to the World coin forum for a lot more information It does, and I will do that! Thanks!

See sig Who's sig? LOL!


Thanks,
Katrina

AuldFartte

Hey, I've got 3 of 'em in my sigline. Not good pics, though

Edited to add: By the way, check for posts by Conder101, Aethelred, Farthing, and Cosmicdebris. They seem to know a LOT about Conder Tokens. I've learned quite a bit from them.

boz

Here's a Conder

Conder101

Conder is NOT a bird. The bird is a condor.

A "Conder" is an american slang term for tokens issued from 1787 - roughly 1800 in England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales/Anglesy. (In Great Britain they are known as "18th century provincial token coinage".) The tokens are called Conders because of James Conder a Draper from Ipswich in the county of Suffolk England. Conder both issued tokens and wrote a catalog of known tokens in 1798 that became the standard reference for the series until the Atkins book came out in 1890. (Contrary to what is comonly said Conder did NOT write the first catalog for the series but his was the most comprehensive. (There were I believe at least two book that preceeded Conder's printed around 1795.)

The tokens came about because of a severe shortage of regal coinage and the extremely large number of counterfeits in circulation. (At the time the percentage of the circulation coinage that was counterfeit was approaching 90%.) The early Conders, being of full weight and of excellent workmanship, quickly became very popular and gained wide acceptance. Merchants, seeing a way to solve their change problem and to make some money (Even at full weight the tokens cost less than their face value to produce and resulted in a profit when introduced into circulation.) so many began having tokens made for themselves as well.

The current references list some 2700+ different die varieties (obv/rev combinations) and when you add in the edge varieties there are close to 5000 possible varieties. Collecting as many different tokens as one could became quite a fad during the 1790's which has resulted in the tokens commonly being available today in high grade,

A few examples




Oh and of course Conder is some crazy guy here on the forum who collects different varieties of third party grading slabs, certificates, and memerabilia.

Gemini

Great looking tokens Condor I especially love the work on the cat and dog piece thanks for sharing.

cosmicdebris

A few more for you: