Appalachian Hoard

Russellp23

Is there a resident expert here on these coins. It's hard to find any inofrmation on them, but I sure would love to have a few.

CarlWohlforth

There used to be a resident expert, Kim C., I can't remember her alias. I haven't seen her post for a very long time. She helped distribute the hoard. She answered a few questions for me.

I've just taken new photos of my AH nickel, this seems like a good place to show them

nwcs

She was a great person, too. She gave me my only one.

lordmarcovan

Carl, that '45-D is fantastic.

CarlWohlforth

Thanks LM! Your dig of the day posts are even more fantastic and I really enjoy them, please keep them coming.

nwcs: Does your coin have a more vibrant blue color in hand than in those photos? I suspect it does...

nwcs

Yes, the coin is very hard to photograph because it is very lustrous.

FrattLaw

I might be wrong but........I thought PCGS and NGC weren't slabbing these anymore.

Michael

majorbigtime

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They will slab 'em for a fee!! For a big enough fee, they probably would slab me!!!

CarlWohlforth

"I might be wrong but........I thought PCGS and NGC weren't slabbing these anymore."

You might be thinking of a different hoard. I'm not sure there are any more to slab anyway. The hoard went to NGC. They got good grades so would probably remain in the same holders. Mine got a 65* even with that cut above the FIVE on the reverse.

Russellp23

From what I know. it's only Jeff's, but is it known how they got the spotted toning?

gemtone65

Go to www.rainbowtoning.com and fire yur questions away. The proprietor is the non-resident expert on this hoard. I'd wait until after the ANA, though.

braddick

PCGS never slabbed these*. It's one reason the "hoard" ended up with NGC.

I don't believe NGC will holder these now if they're presented raw.

*Although I have it under authority PCGS holdered one or possibly two before turning off the switch.

ccex

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They will slab 'em for a fee!! For a big enough fee, they probably would slab me!!! >>



An interesting philosophical conversation. This reminds me of the utilitarian philosopher Jeremy Bentham who willed his estate to his college on the condition that they keep his embalmed remains on display. Bentham slab

When my college philosophy professor tried to visit this display, he was told that Bentham's head had fallen off and was being curated.

Will PCGS slab you and provide curation fees for future generations, or must you send your corpse to NCS for entombment in an NGC slab?

IrishMike

I was fortunate to see Andy's case of them at FUN and listen to his seminar on toning. I confess that I do not know how they obtained the remarkable toning but they are beautiful coins. If nothing else NGC thought the toning was market acceptable and so does the market. They truly do take your breath away.

FrattLaw

<< <i>PCGS never slabbed these*. It's one reason the "hoard" ended up with NGC. >>



Braddick -- Thanks for clearing it up. I always believed that these nickels were too questionable in their toning.

Michael

stman

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stman

Carl, that nickel sure looks familiar.

TomB

This is what I wrote in the thread that stman linked to from 2002-



<< <i>This coin is one of a hoard known as the "Appalachian Hoard" and it covers nearly all the War nickels. I own several of these coins, as do a number of other Board members. I believe the toning is real and I have successfully crossed these into PCGS holders. My coins were NGC MS67* coins and are awesome. The initial selling price was about $225-$325 per coin, so, this seller stands to make an enormous profit at the Buy It Now price. >>



The coins that I purchased were from Andy Kimmel and I was fortunate enough to be able to go through all of these coins, that he had, before they were offered for sale. This was because I was at his table on Dealer Day at a Baltimore show and he walked over to NGC to retrieve his freshly graded coins. We sat and talked for about an hour while I went through each one and picked out the best.

TomB

Oh, by the way, I think FrattLaw is thinking about those neon purple and blue proof nickels from the 1960s and 1970s that PCGS said they wouldn't slab anymore of. They may have since changed their minds, but they had already slabbed a large quantity of obviously AT coins, in my opinion.

IrishMike

Tom my understanding about the coins Michael is referring is the same as yours. Regardless the coins were stunning.

solid

I have a couple of these, a 44-D 67 purchased from Andy K, and a 45-P 66 (shown below)
purchased on ebay, both in late 2001.

One thing I find interesting is the toning on the reverse shown below. It has sort of a
textile pattern, and I've seen multiple coins from this hoard with a similar look. Perhaps
a clue as to how they came to be?

Ken

P.S. I would be interested in purchasing other dates of these coins!

FrattLaw

<< <i>I think FrattLaw is thinking about those neon purple and blue proof nickels >>



Ah, no. The proof coins were the Marty Hoard. I was talking about this Hoard. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Andy Kimmel is out of Milwaukee, WI. And Milwaukee is about 90 miles from Chicago? Why were these then called the Appalachian Hoard? Anyone know the "story" behind these coins? And like I've said before, anytime someone has to tell me a story about how a coin happened to tone in a certain way that I've never seen before, my AT antenna go up.

Michael

TomB

It's the Appalachian Hoard since they supposedly came from there and were then distributed by Andy. As for the blue and purple coins, I heard directly from Tonekiller that David Hall had told him that PCGS would not slab these coins anymore. He told me about two years ago, though they might be slabbing them again.

coynclecter

Whats so odd about proof blue nickels. A lot of my Proof Jeffersons have turned light blue.

uofa1285

NGC MS-67*...





I have another one besides this, I will try to find the pics...

Doug

uofa1285

NGC MS-66 (older holder)...





Thanks,

Doug

CarlWohlforth

coynclecter: There is blue and there is blue. Blue tinted proofs from the 60s are not unusual. However they are referring to the super wild purple/fuschia/blue ones that are very, very blue. They also came in other colors. One of my favs is shown below: