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Guess the Grade: 1860-O Seated Dollar

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU55
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  • NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    AU-55
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  • kamehameha00kamehameha00 Posts: 2,077
    AU-53
  • gemini12398gemini12398 Posts: 885 ✭
    55 sounds right. If a little less rub on the head would have been 58
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    I'd call this AU-55, only because I don't use the AU-53 grade and this is certainly better than 50, IMO.
  • ANACONDAANACONDA Posts: 4,692 ✭
    Looks like NGC graded it. I don't see any wear but the luster looks like it isn't there. Looks fairly mark free but the photos....SUCK....how the hell are we supposed to guess the grade on a coin when the photos suck? Huh? Who taught you how to take picture? GSA Guy....who doesn't even own a camera? Hey man, don't waste our time any more. In fact, I'm gonna write David Hall right now and ask him to keep you from posting any more. Just kidding.

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  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685 ✭
    image AU 50 to me, can't tell much about the hair details. Beautiful dollar though image
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  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    53/55 from those pics
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay, thanks for the answers (and the fangs, Adrian image). It is in an ANACS-50 slab. I have no expertise or experience in this series but recently obtained this NGC-61:

    image

    I held the two side-by-side and could not see a huge difference between the two in terms of wear. There is considerably more luster on the 1850 underneath the toning. I was thinking about sending the 60-O to NCS. What do you think? image








    Actually, I was thinking of trying to get it upgraded and then sell it (the 60-O).
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy Christmas! I was going to say 55 on the 60-O, but forget about it -- the 1850 is fantastic. It really looks like that pic? Good for you! I'd *love* to have that coin... May I ask what you had to shell out for it?
    mirabela
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see no wear on the reverse of the coin (eagle's knuckles or wingtips). The weak head may be due to a flat strike. IF the coin has essentially full luster I'd try it for an UNC. How could it do down from an AU50 unless....it was cleaned.

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have guessed Au-53. I use this grade on occasion when merited, but it is not seen as frequently as the other Au grades! I wonder why??

  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685 ✭
    RYK, is the 1850 a proof ?? image
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    RYK: in all honesty, I would not crack the 60-O unless the luster is much greater than shown in the picture.

    I would guess that the 1850 is much darker in hand. It appears to be a nice, original coin perhaps with a touch of cabinet friction. Tough date!
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TDN,

    No one knows more about these than you, and I will heed your advice.

    The 1860-O has minimal-to-no luster. I will leave it alone, as you recommended. I noted the bump in price (Coin Values) from AU-50 to AU-55 does not warrant any attempt to get it upgraded. If someone wants to buy it, they will buy it for an original AU specimen, as I did.

    The 1850 is somewhat darker in hand, though not as dark as the 60-O, but attractively toned.

    Thanks for everyone's input.

    Robert
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No one knows more about these than you

    au contraire, but I do know a bit.
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    Robert,
    The 1850 coin was from Pinnacle, correct? Very nice looking. Congrats.image
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Robert: The 1860-O looks like a nice original toned Seated Liberty Dollar.

    I'd love to see a photo with better lighting to really penetrate the toning down to the luster -- if there is some underlying mint luster that shows through the toning under the right lighting conditions.

    Stuart

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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    no way is that 1860-o unc.

    K S

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