Why did Conders get so hot here all of a sudden?

Aethelred · August 4, 2004 7:58AM

It seems like on day no one other than Farthing and Conder101 cared, and the next everyone (including myself) was collecting them. What happened?

CoinAddict · August 4, 2004 8:05AM

I don't know. All I know is they have not sucked me in yet.

Aethelred · August 4, 2004 8:06AM

Give it a week or two!

CoinAddict · August 4, 2004 8:09AM

We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

farthing · August 4, 2004 8:15AM

1) Large variety of interesting designs
2) Interesting history behind many of the issues
3) Excellent workmanship
4) Many can be found at a very reasonable price

cosmicdebris · August 4, 2004 9:02AM

Copper is Cool

danglen · August 4, 2004 9:20AM

<< <i> Why did Conders get so hot here all of a sudden? >>

Dealers found out that certain members of the Forum were collecting them

AuldFartte · August 4, 2004 9:26AM

<< <i>1) Large variety of interesting designs
2) Interesting history behind many of the issues
3) Excellent workmanship
4) Many can be found at a very reasonable price >>

That's why they snagged me

MSD61 · August 4, 2004 10:38AM

I think they are outstanding for many of the reasons mentioned above. There is nothing like a beautiful piece of copper. I'd like to dive into the fray myself....but don't know where to begin

spinaker2000 · August 4, 2004 11:11AM

I agree with all the above. But also, we have already bought up all the other great stuff.

That's the same reason I moved into SA coppers. It was cheaper, there was less competition, and plenty of beautifuly toned pieces. Even that has dried up as of late. I'll stay out of the conder fray, for now.

Zulan · August 4, 2004 1:18PM

I did not really understand what they were until very recently. In my minds eye a "token" conjures up wooden nickels and shoddy coins. I bought a really cool 1794 half penny, THEN realized it was a conder. I should post the picture of it actually.

Zulan

Aethelred · August 4, 2004 1:20PM

You should post a photo Zulan!

Conder101 · August 5, 2004 3:59AM

Somebody started posting pictures!

Steve27 · August 5, 2004 4:17AM

But the real question is, with a handle of Conder101, how many Conder tokens do you have? Alternatively, does it relate to your work cataloging slabs in the way that James Conder cataloged tokens?

Conder101 · August 5, 2004 6:23AM

I have 633 different English Conder tokens, maybe 30 or so from Anglesy, Scotland, and Ireland, and about 70 duplicates.

The only way it relates to my slab research is that James Conder cataloged the tokens because they were currently available and everyone was using them. He was trying to list all of the varieties that had been produced. Well slabs are currently available, everyone is using them, and I'm trying to list all of the varieties that have been produced.

Really though, I have been interested in early coinage since 1978 and a die variety specialist/collector since 1985. I have been collecting since before slabs and certification even existed. I had seen companies come and go and often thought I should put together a set of all of the companies/varieties that had been used. About five and a half years ago on a forum I frequent someone asked the question "How many different companies have there been and how many types of holders?" The rest of them were able to come up with 9 or 10 companies. I listed 22 plus varieties.

Well I write a monthly column for one of the local club newsletters and I thought that it would make a good topic so I wrote it up. In doing so I started looking to see how many more I could find and the rest is history.

The only thing I've ever written on Conder tokens was Legend Index of English Conder Tokens published in May of 2001. It is an index that cross references every legend inscription found on english Conder tokens with every D&H number that uses it. Look up the obverse and reverse inscriptions, see which numbers they have in common and in most cases you have narrowed it down to just a couple of possiblities. It makes finding your token in D&H much easier. (Otherwise you may have to just page through the 328 pages of DH (Assuming your token is english) and compare it to the 1,500 pictures looking for a match.

Sylvestius · August 5, 2004 6:35AM

It's not an area that ever interested me and i doubt it ever will, why? Well for a start they're copper and copper and i don't get on. Secondly i like standardisation and condor designs are all over the place, and they're not what i'd call real coins.

Having said that i may one day be persuaded to purchase a Sheffield shilling but other than that the interest goes no further than a local one.

I'll stick to the real 17th & 18th Century silver and gold coinage, and my beloved sixpences.

MrEureka · August 5, 2004 8:47AM

1) Large variety of interesting designs
2) Interesting history behind many of the issues
3) Excellent workmanship
4) Many can be found at a very reasonable price

Just like Franklin Mint medals!

cosmicdebris · August 5, 2004 8:55AM

Franklin mint medals!

Aethelred · August 5, 2004 9:27AM

<< <i>1) Large variety of interesting designs
2) Interesting history behind many of the issues
3) Excellent workmanship
4) Many can be found at a very reasonable price >>

5. Were used as money in most cases.
6. Over 200 years old.

wybrit · August 5, 2004 12:07PM

Just like Franklin Mint medals

farthing · August 5, 2004 12:42PM

Just like Franklin Mint medals!

lordmarcovan · August 7, 2004 7:38AM

I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.
I like 'em but I will not be sucked in.

Why did Conders get so hot here all of a sudden?

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