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Guess: Which one is $10, which one is $200

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2 cards. Same player, same year, same seller.

One will cost you $200, the other will cost you $10.

Loves me some shiny!

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  • AknotAknot Posts: 1,196 ✭✭
    The one on the left.
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  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    the on e on the left is 200, the right is 10. much better print quality and centering althought the scans don't help
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    left = $200
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭
    Left clearly shows a much better card.
    Since this comparison is being posted here, is the $200 card the one on the right?
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    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • Okay, I'll go with the one on the right
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    Left PSA 10, right PSA 9

    The PSA 9 scan was worse than the 10.

    My point was $190 for 1 grade up on a modern card.

    Better show me a whole lot of difference other than what mood the grader was in.

    Fools gold.

    Loves me some shiny!
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    "fools gold" , it's only worth what someone will pay and if someone will pay it does it make them a fool ? we all have choices and choose where we want to spend out money. the fact is that this hobby is made of egos and pationate collectors who have money to spend and are willing to spend it. you could make the case with just about any card you want to post on, are they really worth it? yes to the person that wants to pay.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Carew:

    Although I do not necessarily agree or disagree with you - for most modern issues, there are huge populations of PSA 9 with relatively low populations of PSA 10. The multiples do get kind of crazy sometimes - but I think it is primarily because of an oversupply of PSA 9s relative to the marketplace. Most "modern" PSA 9s that can be found in abundance have been steadily declining in value for 4-5 years now, as populations increase and there aren't enough other collectors to pick up the 9s. Many are selling for close to grading fees, with Carew being an example.

    With the PSA pop report showing 90 PSA 9s and 96 PSA 8s for Rod Carew from the 1980 set - the bottom line is that there aren't NEAR that many 1980 set collectors or Rod Carew player collectors. So, those 9s (and especially 8s) become essentially valueless.

    Mike Schmidt #270 is another good example. At one point, in the late 1990s, I owned about half of the PSA 9 population (27 of 50), primarily through personal submissions. There were no 10s as of yet at that time (although I'm confident that some of the 9s I sold may have been resubmitted to become 10s). Today, there are 264 PSA 9s and nearly 300 PSA 8s. These cards just aren't worth that much - people would rather have them in a less bulky container (e.g unslabbed). PSA 9s have dropped in "value" from the $50-$75 range to $10 or less in many cases. Sometimes they'll do better at small card shows - and there are probably still some 10s in 9 holders - but with such little return on the 9s - who wants to take the risk?

    ~ms
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • If I collected Carew or the 1980 set, the card on the left would be worth the extra 190 bucks. The best never goes out of style....of course I'd pay the extra money regardless of which card was the PSA 10. I just want the best card. I satisfy my ego with some of the 10's in my set with a clearly superior 9 that I keep right behind it though. In many (possibly most) cases the difference between a 10 and a 9 is nothing more than timing and chance encounters with a set of weary eyes or a bulk submission. The fact that I have turned many 8's into 10's bears that fact. The Carew example on the left here is a very stunning card, however. You should be quite proud of that card regardless of it's year of issue or number on the flip...gorgeous.
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭
    For my collection, I'd be happy with the $10 'right-hand' card. However, it's pretty evident from the scan that the left Carew is superior. Coloring is usually what I notice first on newer issues and this 10 is blazer material.

    So for my tastes..........the psa 9 is fine.
    But if you really desire the absolute best, that 10 is where it's at.............$190 difference or not!

    BOTR
  • maybe the $200 PSA 10 Carew price is "artificially inflated?"
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    Hey to each his own.

    My 9 example was weak, it just happened to be the same seller, selling both cards at the same time.
    Which made me think how crazy it would be to pay $190 for 1 point diff, from MY perspective.

    I approach evry buy from an investment stand point first, not to make money, only the ability to recoup money
    spnet if I had too. (Refer to all of the collectors who have sold their prized sets in times of trouble). You
    can bet that the purity of the "collectrr" goes out the window when you need that cash back.
    So if you have a "dirty investor" slam for me, save it. Reality always trumps relative mores in the collecting world.

    I also know a few collecors with buckets of disposable income who would never buy the 10 for $200. Just like they dont buy
    Amazon stock. Its over inflated and there is no room for equity growth. I know, horrible words all.

    But I have always felt that collectors of graded cards have made the switch from collectors to investor/collectors.

    Guys over at OBC you want the card in any shape are "collectors", just like I was before PSA changed me into a commodities dealer!



    Edited to add: I type fast and cannot spell.

    Loves me some shiny!
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    Lets play again with a better scan.

    Which one is the 10 and which one is the 9?

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    Loves me some shiny!
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    card on the right is the 10. image
  • if the card on the left is a ten, that's ridiculous. way too diamond-cut.
  • BugOnTheRugBugOnTheRug Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭


    << <i>card on the right is the 10. image >>



    what he said.......... image

    botr
  • CON40CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Trick question... they're both 9s!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    trickier question

    will the 200 version ahem need help to achieve it being sold?
    Good for you.
  • VirtualizardVirtualizard Posts: 1,936 ✭✭
    Randall,

    First, I don't think that's the best looking PSA 10 that I've seen of this card. I've bid on a few and been beaten every time.

    Second, considering the last few, which looked better IMO, went for $134.05, $142.50, $133.50, and $127.50, I won't be bidding, let alone hit the $200 BIN.

    It's yours if you want it.

    JEB.
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    VL,
    No interest in acquiring 10's. If I get them on sub's then great.

    Left is an 8, right 10.

    I guess $200 for a 1980 is just stunning to me in a sense and not in another., considering $150,000 jersey cards.


    Loves me some shiny!
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    so why did you say which is a 9 and which is a 10 if one was an 8? if you want stunning look at at some of the prices for psa 9 and 10 76's and psa 9 70's yankees. by the way that carew is not going to sell for 200 , 4sharp will probably mark it down a couple times and it will sell in the 125 range like the last have.
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