Suspicious Looking Flowing Hair Half-Dime on EBay

JrGMan2004

EBay Look a little bit like perhaps something was filed away? I saw something like this recently on a web site someone posted to here about Bust coins, and one couterfeit method was to take a gallery mint piece, and file away the identifying markings... this kinda looks like that, and then they filed on the other side to give them an excuse for why it was a filed, "Must have been done to hide a plug" except that a plug would still be visible, even if you filed it down a bit, unless you matched the silver content exactly... though... the characteristics of the coin do match a die marriage...

mgoodm3

LincolnCentMan

Purely speculation on my part... but could the word "copy" have been warn off? It seems odd that the rest of the coin is so well "meaty" and the spot on the rev. where "copy" is usally stamped on fakes is warn smooth.

David

Jody526

It doesn't look anything like a real one.

Thanks for the tip.
That's another seller I can add to my "blocked seller" list.

ColonialCoinUnion

I'm not sure what you mean 'it doesn't look anything like a real one'.

I believe it is a genuine coin with filing to conceal a plug or other damage as the seller has indicated. On the other hand, I wouldn't recommend buying it - better to have a very low grade coin without the massive damage.



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dorkkarl

real coin, holed & pluged.

K S

MICHAELDIXON

Looks like a genuine coin to me that has had a hole crudely plugged. In fact on the obverse the plug is still visible.

Conder101

<< <i>I'm not sure what you mean 'it doesn't look anything like a real one'. >>


Possibly he said that because it doesn't match any of the varieties pictured on the Coinfacts website. (But that is because Coinfacts doesn't show a picture of V-4/LM-4.) But I also wonder about it because it looks like it has a rough "pimply" surface like those seen on EDM counterfeits. (By the way it is NOT a GMM copy. GMM did not copy the v-4/LM-4 variety and COPY is in a different location than the damage seen on this piece. Royal Oak Mint has not made a 1794 half dime.))

mhammerman

Looks like a beltsander finish with a hydrochloric acid wash and then a quick dip in dog doo for coloring.

JrGMan2004

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<< <i>I'm not sure what you mean 'it doesn't look anything like a real one'. >>


Possibly he said that because it doesn't match any of the varieties pictured on the Coinfacts website. (But that is because Coinfacts doesn't show a picture of V-4/LM-4.) But I also wonder about it because it looks like it has a rough "pimply" surface like those seen on EDM counterfeits. (By the way it is NOT a GMM copy. GMM did not copy the v-4/LM-4 variety and COPY is in a different location than the damage seen on this piece. Royal Oak Mint has not made a 1794 half dime.)) >>

It matches the LM-4 diagnostics...

Conder101

<< <i>It matches the LM-4 diagnostics... >>


One thing bothers me though. Look at star 14. On LM-4 the star points BETWEEN two denticals. On the eBay coin it appears to point AT a dentical. Other than that it does match the LM-4. (It does not match the piece pictured by ColonialCoinUnion from the Coinfacts page.)