Poor mike tyson..
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got his a$$ beat due to a bum knee..
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soon to pay off his 40 million dollars in debt.....
poor mike.
literally.
<< <i>How the heck does someone get themself 40 million bucks in debt?
they keep taking advantage
of all the creditors that were willing to
loan him money
and all the people who he had "working"
for him that were stealing him blind.
(you notice that Don King is not bankrupt!)
Bound by non-disclosure issues , I can absolutely agree that someone with a lot of electrostatic hair never lost......
All that said, does it excuse the excesses, which admittedly were spurred on by his various "handlers" to help keep him under control, which in itself was a full-time job? Things like white tigers living in the House in Nevada which were fed daily supplies of just killed horses for the meat....money for luxuries and baubles which no advisor warned against purchase....no independent accounting of his purses until the damage was done.
Yes, only in America.......
I am not making any excuses for Tyson, but he did tear ligaments in his knee in the first round. I was there (had seats where I could lean over and touch the ring) and saw when it happened and even made a comment about it to my father-in-law who is a boxing trainer and had fighters on the undercard. Tyson looked impressive in the first round as he was close to knocking Williams out when the injury occured. That type of injury very easily turned that fight around as he was hitting Williams with some good shots but the power was not there as he could not push off with the injury to the left knee. He could not roll the hook over for power as well as his head movement stopped after the injury.
I had the pleasure of watching Tyson train several times up close and personal before the fight as he trained in my father-in-laws boxing gym the week prior to the fight. He was very gracious and nothing what I expected as I talked with him many times while he was there.
It will take some time, but Tyson will be back as I believe the fight would have turned out differently if not for the injury. Danny Williams said he would give Tyson a rematch in his post fight press conference, but he would be cazy if he did as he has everything to lose if he lost to Tyson in a rematch.
Congratulations to Danny Williams and good luck to Mike Tyson on a successful recovery from knee surgery.
Todd
<< <i>Here in Louisville, it was reported that he had a second hotel room rented for his eight pigeons. >>
you don't expect him to sleep in the SAME room with his pigeons do you?
The guy just dosen't have the stamina or the ability to take much punishment anymore.
P.S While were on the subject of Mike Tyson . What great heavyweight has Tyson ever beat ? He beat a washed up Holmes and Spinks who had no business even being in the heavyweight division. Against his toughest opponents he was beat quite easily ( Lewis,Holyfield )
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<< <i>What a waisted life and talent! >>
wasted....
and I could not agree more.
it is very sad how much potential
he had and how he piissssseed it away!
I respect your opinion and agree that in his prime he could maybe have beaten all the fighters you listed.
You are correct that all champs fought lesser talents. But Lewis and Holyfield were in his same era. Holyfield is a little older and Lewis is about the same age. The true barometer of a boxing champ is how he comes back after he has been beaten. Tyson was a bully type like Liston, once he was KO'ed by Douglas, he never beat another fighter that wasn't intimidated by his prefight posturing. The legacy of Ali, Holyfield, Lewis (Joe and Lennox), Leonard, Frazier, and to a lesser degree Foreman and De La Hoya was that they still beat good competition after being beaten.
To put any athlete's career in perspective one must look at the body of work. To say "in his prime" is myopic. Fred Lynn, Roger Maris, Ron Guidry, Jose Canseco, and others were as good or better than any other players "in their prime", but none of them is going to the Hall of Fame or in the discussion of the greatest players of alltime in their sport.
On a sidenote-Because boxing is about styles, IMHO Holmes (who I don't feel was a great champion, and Tyson beat-geez I thought he killed him with that shot!) would have been a tough matchup for Tyson in his prime because of his length, jabbing precision and ability to go deep into a fight.
Just my 2 cents.
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You're right in that "in their prime" was intended to be myopic. To me, a boxing "career" is really not as important as it is in baseball.
Tyson really is such an enigma. I watched that Tyson - Douglas fight live on TV and still find it hard to believe. But boxing has become so pathetic and corrupt that I hardly even follow it anymore. With all the "championship" belts these days, who the heck hardly knows who is really the current champion - it's rediculous. That being said, a "legitimate" heavyweight championship fight is still one of the most interesting and exciting events in sports.
tyson -vs- butterbean
<< <i>tyson -vs- butterbean >>
well there would certainly be a LOT more for Tyson to knaw on during the fight....
<< <i>Happy 23rd anniversary losing to Buster Douglas. >>
Man, I remember being out at a local pub having dinner and watching that fight! Can't believe it is that long ago.
Doug
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<< <i>Happy 23rd anniversary losing to Buster Douglas. >>
Man, I remember being out at a local pub having dinner and watching that fight! Can't believe it is that long ago. >>
I also remember how much of a bag of $hit Douglas looked like when he took a fall against Holyfield then retired after the big payday.
<< <i>wow.. i made one sarcastic post 5 days ago and the thread is still alive.. i think thats a record..
tyson -vs- butterbean >>
Add ten years to the total.
I vote 2 & 3!
Tyson is washed up. His next opponent has already started training....
He never had the foot work to box with this little guy!
He's become pretty popular now as a one man show/entertainer. Overrated as a boxer (though his decimation of Michael Spinks in 91 seconds was a classic) but I give him credit for reinventing himself. When he was at his peak, he beat most guys even before the opening bell.
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I remember in the late 80's, i wanted to see a Tyson vs Foreman match, but Tyson wouldnt fight him.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
I always liked him when he first started out smashing people but, Don King, Robin Givens happened and he went off the rails. He was a complete losing all that money but looks like he smartened up and is making some money again. I’m rooting for the guy I guess
I would comment further in this thread, but since I expressed my viewpoints over 15 years ago in this thread, I think the statute of limitations or whatever it's called, has expired and thus I am no longer allowed to do so.
I’m actually surprised I didn’t get slapped by the mods over some of my comments but agreed the statue of limitations is well past I think 😅
His cartoon is funny, Mike Tyson Mysteries. Got a good sense of humor in him for sure.
I just wish he would have had to fight Ali. Ali would have taken him to school!
Tyson has been on at least one roast, on the dais. I forget which roast it was. It's on Youtube.
Tyson took some brutal shots from some of the comedians, but he laughed harder at it than anyone. Took it in stride. In his younger days, he would have viciously attacked the speaker for saying stuff like that about him.
Yep, is it Maturity or is he too old and tired to get nasty over small stuff? I find at 49 my explosive temper is a shell of its former self, I often go back and forth with thinking I’m more mature while other times I deep down think sometimes I don’t have the energy to flip out 😂
i posted this in another thread a while back
i find it apropos to do so here as well
tyson has endeared himself to me over the years with his self-deprecation
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet