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Identification help please.

Can anyone tell me what this copper coin is?
Many thanks in advance!

Many thanks in advance!


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<< <i>Looks like a 1622 German states copper coin-- on the other hand, the lack of any kind of legend is puzzling, and so is that '84' >>
Yes I'm finding this all puzzling myself.
I don't have time for much sleuthing at the moment, but if nobody else solves the riddle, I'll have another crack at it later. I do love a challenge.
That "84" on the reverse is indeed most interesting.
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