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  • atarianatarian Posts: 3,116
    simply i dont have any confidence in the FBI that they have the time to crack down on EBAY. EBAY is a wild beast with crooked sellers and i dont see how FBI would have time for this. isnt this between EBAY, Sellers, Buyers, and Department of customer affairs. not FBI?
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  • What would I get if I "won" the that auction? image
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    Now you all know I despise numismatic fraud, but this guy has to take some responsibility. You don't buy raw 89-CC and 93-S Morgans from an unknown eBay seller with no track record.
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What would I get if I "won" the that auction? image >>


    Feedback.
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    I'll bet he ended up with theseText--------------------BigE
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    And to think you're going to get those as described for $790?!?!?! A VF 1893-S and an "XF+++" 1889-CC? image

    Not really funny, I guess, because fraud sucks -- but man, this proves P. T. Barnum was right.

    Maybe someone needs to hope that there's a Detective Pete Gibb in Cave Creek, Arizona?
  • I beleive that the FBI would only investigate it to a certain point, once they locate the seller, they would turn over the information to that seller's local Police Department, and then wash their hands of the whole thing.
    Now the local Police department likely won't do anything at all, unless they are lucky and have someone who is knowledgeable enough withthe computers to do something about it.
    Dpending on the state it would be a misdemenor or a felony (in Texas $750+ is a felony). Then you have to have enough evidence to present to a prosecutor to get a judge's attention. Then it's whether the proecutor wants to spend the money and time for the court case or not.

    A victim would probably fare better in a civil court with a law suit in most cases. But then those cost money and sometimes takes years to complete, and even if the victim wins they may still never get any money for it.
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  • I concur with K6AZ
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    The FBI will have a public relations employee take a report, but nobody will investigate.

    And chances are, as long as they have you on the phone, they'll run the complaining party thru NCIC just to see if they happen to be looking for them.

    The guy probably got junk, but would only have a chance of recovering in small claims court or with the sellers local police.

    I guess he learned there is still no such thing as a free lunch.

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    I guess the seller was 100% satisfied.
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  • spy88spy88 Posts: 764 ✭✭
    As the FBI does not/will not involve themselves directly with this type of situation, the FBI does partner with the National White Collar Crime Center to form the IFCC (Internet Fraud Complaint Center). At their web site (ifccfbi.gov), any individual or group may file a complaint. Usually, when they get around to looking at it, they will only forward the info to your local PD for any action.

    I've been told by my local internet fraud unit that in order for the IFCC to really take an active interest in the case, the amount must be in the 50K+ range. Anything less is handed off.

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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I, along with most of the rest of you, pay the salaries of the FBI and I would much rather have them out there killing terrorists than hunting down eBay scam artists.
  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭


    << <i>I would much rather have them out there killing terrorists than hunting down eBay scam artists. >>



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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    My biggest concern is that this person (the seller) was clever enough to establish a short but good feedback history, and then ran a private auction on the high-ticket items. I wonder if she/he is just going to establish another eBay ID and start the process all over again.
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  • << <i>My biggest concern is that this person (the seller) was clever enough to establish a short but good feedback history, and then ran a private auction on the high-ticket items. I wonder if she/he is just going to establish another eBay ID and start the process all over again. >>


    probably
  • AValdeAValde Posts: 299

    FBI won't investigate.

    They need a massive fraud to happen for them to look at the case. They will file a report though, but its just part of the bureaucracy.

    I also notice that there are more number of lady fraudsters and their number is growing.

  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713
    Not all the "lady fraudsters" are female. Some scammers think it helps lower their marks' suspicion levels.


    The FBI will not pursue fraud themselves unless the value is rather higher than this case -- usually in the six figures. We learned this on this forum several years ago while trying to get an eBay fraudster shut down who was attempting to sell a fake 1804 dollar.
    Askari



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