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got a question for the board and the serious dealers help PLEASE!!!GETTING ROBBED

pick6investmentspick6investments Posts: 189 ✭
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OK here is the deal

Me and guy I thought I knew in the hobby(you guys do not like him) and I will tell his name SOON if I get no info from him
bought 12 75 mini wax packs from Baseball Kid at Sportsfest. We submitted 34 total cards under his name at PSA

We agreed to split the cost of the packs and grading and submit to PSA for 6.00 a card and submit the order under his name

well all orders were done by now!

so I call him and he claims they didn't get done yet and he has no submission # for me to check online( I knew then that he planned to screw me but could not prove it- now I can prove with certainty straight from PSA's mouth).

So today after several calls that stated NO CARDS from the submitter I called PSA and found out that the order had been graded and sent to him over two weeks ago.

I have called the submitter twice tonight NO answer from him
and left a message wondering what grades we recieved


My wife IS AN ATTORNEY and she said we could sue his tale. He lives in North Carolina and I live in TN.

My question to you is what would you do GIVE HIM MORE TIME, demand a submission #, sue him(I can easliy)

We have talked since the grades were released and he is lying to my face sayign PSA is dragging their heels. My guess is we got several PSA 10's(he sold them and going to buy 8's to give me)

Any sale of these at the national you saw by a dealer would also help.

If I get no answer from him within 48 hours I will blow this board up with his stealing. You guys will love it TRUST ME ON THAT ONE!

Just so you know I sell on average about 10K a month on ebay so I know most of the dealers somewhat and would not have done this unless I knew the guy

ALSO PSA HAS CONFIRMED THIS ORDER WENT OUT TO HIM TWO WEEKS AGO- He and I talked since then and he says NO CARDS!
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Comments

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    <Well my 160 cards came back in two weeks>


    im confused, yours came back? then what cards are you talking abt then?
    Good for you.
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Can you explain this a little clearer? It sounds like you two split the costs (grading fees and packs) but I am unsure if they were submitted via two different orders or if your 160 card order was a separate order entirely. Did you plan on selling the graded cards? I hope you can get resolution.

    I would email him this thread ....
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • pick6investmentspick6investments Posts: 189 ✭
    I submitted that friday my order well we put these on his submission since we has a BIG dealer and I was hoping for a little better treatment and I trusted the guy

    I submit but not anything like what he does. I submitted 400 + cards in 4 months and he crushes me.
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  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Sounds like a personal problem. If your wife is a lawyer, should have gotten her to jot you a quick document for CYA purposes all around and have it signed.
    You say you got "your" 160 cards back? So whose cards are whose? You should attempt to resolve this on your own and not dump it out here. Just IMO. Best of luck.
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Veeery interesting...but confuzink!
    Good luck pick6.
    Stone
    Mike
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    where in North Carolina??

    LMK ASAP

    JS
  • riccaboniriccaboni Posts: 454 ✭
    This doesn't make much sense.

    Perhaps you could clarify so we could better help you out.

    -Ian
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    ....the guy went from being a big time dealer, that submits so much that he crushes you...... to a KID!!



    in any event 6 stop freaking out

    i hope it turns out ok for you

    Good for you.
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    Didn't this same story appear here earlier this year? Submitting cards to PSA in another guy's name, weeks go by and no cards, no grades, guy kept making up excuses etc etc. Maybe I'm experiencing deja vu.
  • dbj77dbj77 Posts: 499
    wasn't there a similar story involving beachbum?
  • loki23loki23 Posts: 134


    << <i>My guess is we got several PSA 10's(he sold them and going to buy 8's to give me) >>



    There is an easy way to tell if this happened...in my, albeit VERY limited experience in sumbitting cards I have noticed that the card are returned with cert numbers issued in sequential order. If you get a bunch of 8's with cert numbers that aren't even close to being sequential...then you have your answer
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  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭✭
    I doubt that you received a "bunch of 10s" as there are only 99 PSA 10 out of over 17000 75 minis graded. He may be replacing some 9s though. Either way I hope that it works out for you, either get the submission # or when you get the cards make sure that the cert #s are in order.
  • phreakydancinphreakydancin Posts: 1,691 ✭✭
    pick6 - Any update?
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
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    Good for you.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>pick6 - Any update? >>



    im interested
    ·p_A·
  • goodriddance189goodriddance189 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭
    spill his name. this guy sounds like a loser the public has a right to avoid
  • maxXposuremaxXposure Posts: 168
    TTT
  • SmellthisSmellthis Posts: 78
    For the future, you should just shell out the PSA membership fee, so you can have the piece of mind to submit your cards thru yourself. How can you possibly trust anyone to submit any number of cards thru PSA, unless you live on the same block, or at least in the same city.
  • TheRoachTheRoach Posts: 483


    << <i>wasn't there a similar story involving beachbum? >>



    Yes, but that scenario was a bit different than this one. In my situation it wasn't a "honesty" issue afterall. Just a simple misunderstanding. In any event, it was cleared up shortly after and I was happy with how BeachBum and I worked it out. We are a-ok now.




    TheRoach




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    7 MVP awards, the single season HR record, career walks record, single season walks record, 700HR/500SB, and two batting titles near 40 years old. How can one argue that those aren't stats of the greatest to ever play the game??? All this and there is still more to come!!!! Bonds:2005 NL MVP. Or are you going to doubt him again?
  • pick6investmentspick6investments Posts: 189 ✭
    no difference at all! this person clearred it up as well and sent me my cards and I am OK with this person as well!that is why no name was ever mentioned becaue IT WAS MY FAULT!
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  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    I am shocked.
  • pick6investmentspick6investments Posts: 189 ✭
    vargha the reason you have 15000 WORTHLESS posts is because you say nothing at all in your posts! Just smart comments and worthless banter! you are a class act
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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭
    I always thought Vargha's lack of hysterical rip-off posts were endearing

    Loves me some shiny!
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just smart comments and worthless banter! you are a class act >>



    Vargha, please quit with the smart comments.. try for some unintelligent comments instead..
    ·p_A·
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    seems u are always at fault.................image
    Good for you.
  • pick6investmentspick6investments Posts: 189 ✭
    I am usually! lol
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>vargha the reason you have 15000 WORTHLESS posts is because you say nothing at all in your posts! Just smart comments and worthless banter! you are a class act >>


    Hey Pick6
    Don't mess with Vargha, he's heavy into Voodoo!

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    Mike
  • pick6investmentspick6investments Posts: 189 ✭
    lol- I am chilling out!
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  • TipemTipem Posts: 881 ✭



    Vargha probably just hadn't had his meds yet !!! image




    He really isn't a bad guy for being a dyslexic,one armed,voodoo practicing,islamic midget.



    Hey Vargha,


    Did I get it right ???



    Vic
    Please be kind to me. Even though I'm now a former postal employee, I'm still capable of snapping at any time.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>He really isn't a bad guy for being a dyslexic,one armed,voodoo practicing,islamic midget. >>


    Vic
    I think you left out the fact that he is an ex-con and I suspect in the witness protection program.
    Mike
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    Mike
  • TipemTipem Posts: 881 ✭



    Oh Yeah,


    Thanks Mike !!!!!image




    Vic
    Please be kind to me. Even though I'm now a former postal employee, I'm still capable of snapping at any time.
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    I'm gay, too.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Not that there is anything wrong with that....

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm gay, too. >>




    << <i>Not that there is anything wrong with that.... >>


    Griff
    I think we have a problem here....we're not even sure that Vargha even exists! I think he is a PSA apparition - or some kind of bureaucratic absence of presence or somethin....
    I say we launch a full scale investigation into the matter and get to the bottom of this!

    Mike
    Mike
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    I'm actually Joe Orlando's alt. ID. There, I've said it now. I feel much better.
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