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Quit bashing car salesmen.

PutTogetherPutTogether Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭
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Any post mentioning coin vault or some supposed "unscrupulous" dealer inevitably likens them to "used car salesmen." Or, "oh my god, thats even worse than a car salesman."

In the thread talking about the hidden camera coin sting where someone tried to rip of an old lady it was "car salesmen do it all the time"

Some of us ARE car salesmen!!!!!!!!!! And it doesnt meant we are rude, obnoxious, or liars.

Thank you.

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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭


    << <i> ...And it doesnt meant we are rude, obnoxious, or liars. >>






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    Since when?



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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any post mentioning coin vault or some supposed "unscrupulous" dealer inevitably likens them to "used car salesmen." Or, "oh my god, thats even worse than a car salesman." In the thread talking about the hidden camera coin sting where someone tried to rip of an old lady it was "car salesmen do it all the time" Some of us ARE car salesmen!!!!!!!!!! And it doesnt meant we are rude, obnoxious, or liars. Thank you. >>

    Good thing you also don't collect Moderns or otherwise your pillow would be constantly moist from tears! image

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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Indeed.

    Braddick...... imageimageimage


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  • BowTieCoinsBowTieCoins Posts: 899
    My dad and his dad and his dad's dad all sold cars, so you wont here any lip out of me about car salesmen.

    Katrina
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    If you happen to know any honest, no-pressure, and likeable car salesmen (or women) in the Portland, OR area- please let me know!!
    Sorry, but your profession will probably always be the butt of jokes and looked upon with doubt and suspicion. I know the few car salesmen I have encountered have not done anything to refute that negative image......But I'm not going to bash anybody because I know there are good guys out there....
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  • Sphinx357Sphinx357 Posts: 1,279
    lol
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭


    << <i>Indeed.

    Braddick...... imageimageimage


    My day job. image >>








    Oh man...you mean you're not just a car salesman...but a USED CAR SALESMAN???



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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    LOL......absolutely, the worst kind. An owner. image
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    I see your point. I'm going to run this past my manager and see if we can work something out.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Come on, these days all we have left are blondes, lawyers and used car salesman.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...........quit whining, it's only a tired old joke that evidentally contains enough truth to have earned it's trite status. besides, for every upstanding used car salesman who's totally above board and has never misrepresented an automobile or somehow screwed a customer, there are probably a million who have.

    hey, i'll bet that's the same reasoning that causes collectors to bash coin dealers!! and like Braddick alluded to with Modern Coinage, one screwed up high grade PCGS 1963 Lincoln and it proves that all Moderns are junk and not worth crap.

    man, the world's a tough place, so you'd better grow some skin or find another profession. how about furniture??

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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And it doesnt meant we are rude, obnoxious, or liars. >>


    There ARE exceptions to every rule, but the generalization is probably on track image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Russ

    add hillbillys to the list. it's still OK to crack on them ever since we had our first hillbilly President.

    al h.image
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>...........quit whining, it's only a tired old joke that evidentally contains enough truth to have earned it's trite status. besides, for every upstanding used car salesman who's totally above board and has never misrepresented an automobile or somehow screwed a customer, there are probably a million who have. hey, i'll bet that's the same reasoning that causes collectors to bash coin dealers!! and like Braddick alluded to with Modern Coinage, one screwed up high grade PCGS 1963 Lincoln and it proves that all Moderns are junk and not worth crap. man, the world's a tough place, so you'd better grow some skin or find another profession. how about furniture?? al h.image >>

    Keets, what you say sounds good, but is there anyway you could shave off about 10% of the attitude? If so, I can offer free undercoating and 3 months worth of car washes. image

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  • LouisLouis Posts: 3,687
    Only 99.9% of car salesmen are bad. image They give the unscrupulous a bad name.


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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My dad and his dad and his dad's dad all sold cars, so you wont here any lip out of me about car salesmen.

    Katrina >>



    And now you're a coin dealer. image

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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    man, the world's a tough place, so you'd better grow some skin or find another profession.

    Gee Dad, I never thought of it that way. image
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    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
    My father was a car salesman. I didn't take offense to the comment. You have to understand this fact. There will always be jokes with greedy, snobby, crooked, lying, ect. attributions to most professions where alot of money is spent. i.e. Lawyers, Doctors, Car Salesman. Usually it is a big deal for someone to buy a car. Most Middle and lower class do look for used cars and consider it alot of money. Don't take this the wrong way but sometimes you just gotta roll with the punches. Don't let smalltalk with no offense intended get you riled up. If it does, how on earth would you handle it if someone actually meant to offend you personally.

    edited because I misspelled offense. (like anyone cares.)image
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  • BowTieCoinsBowTieCoins Posts: 899
    Russ- just what are you trying to say, LOL!!

    Katrina
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    add hillbillys to the list.

    Hillbilly is not an acceptable term anymore. The acceptable designation is redneck......
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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    And I heard it was sons of the south?
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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Poorguy,

    Most of us who are in the automobile business or other stereotyped trades don't take any of the negative comments personally. I know plenty of folks in my profession who deserve the stereotype. My entire family works in our business, my father, my son, my mother, and several folks who've been with me 20+ years. If you post something negative about one of them specifically, that's personal. Otherwise, my skin is so thick I could be a football. image
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it's still hillbilly, guys. deal with it. the irony of hhillbillys is that most of them have no aversion to the term, they knows what they is and accept it with grace.

    sons of the south confines the group to a certain geographic area and redneck, well, that's an entire sub-group all it's own. as a matter of fact, most rednecks envision themselves as sons of the south and either group would probably b@tch slap a real hillbilly just for the fun of it.

    al h.image
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    sons of the south confines the group to a certain geographic area and redneck, well, that's an entire sub-group all it's own. as a matter of fact, most rednecks envision themselves as sons of the south and either group would probably b@tch slap a real hillbilly just for the fun of it

    I had no idea this was such a rich and complex subculture! image
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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Car salesman don't even come close to the level of "web sales people".

    And real estate salespeople are really car salespeople who don't like to stay in one place for long.

    Ughhhh

    Tomimage

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>sons of the south confines the group to a certain geographic area and redneck, well, that's an entire sub-group all it's own. as a matter of fact, most rednecks envision themselves as sons of the south and either group would probably b@tch slap a real hillbilly just for the fun of it

    I had no idea this was such a rich and complex subculture! image >>




    Much more rich than any "sophisticate" of the north could even imagine.

    Tomimage

    Coin's for sale/trade.


    Tom Pilitowski
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  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭
    C'mon, if you are in the car business you should know that everyone bashes you. Its part of the territory. My best friend is the GsM for a Toyota dealership and I give him crap everytime I see him. I especially like calling on Saturday afternoon when he is working.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    .........another interesting fact about hillbillys from the top, they seem to be quite cosmopolitan, don't you think?? while the stereotypical hillbilly lives, well, in the hills with a rundown shack and dirt floor, that is almost never the case. sons of the south maybe, and rednecks no doubt, but not a self respecting hillbilly.

    i grew up in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio and one day a stationwagon pulled into the next door driveway, the new neighbors had arrived, the Hall family from West-by-God-Virginia. the back doors of the car flung open and out ran Stevie and his brother, making a beeline for the back of the garage where they took a quick wiz!!!!!! they were neat people, the salt of the earth. Sonny was in his early 20's and his dad, Carl, helped him at the local racetrack with a stockcar they built. years later, after they moved to Kalamazoo, Michigan, our family drove up to visit. i found out years later that Mrs. Hall---i still don't know her first name---was bald as a cueball, and she was a very pretty woman!! they were much more fun than the next family that moved in, rednecks!!!

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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    What's the difference between rednecks and hillbillies?



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    No, it's not a joke!

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    if yoose don't know, i ain'ta tellin'??

    al h.image
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Speaking of keets' hillbillys relieving themselves by the garage, I heard the following story in college, though I don't know if it's true:
    There was a new graduate student in the chemistry lab who hailed from a large country in Asia. Apparently he left a deposit in the lab sink, thinking it was a toilet. Story goes he never saw indoor plumbing growing up...
  • baccarudabaccaruda Posts: 2,588 ✭✭
    Any post mentioning coin vault or some supposed "unscrupulous" dealer inevitably likens them to "used car salesmen." Or, "oh my god, thats even worse than a car salesman."

    Actually I call the Coin Vault guy a "carnival barker". I hope I'm not offending anyone with that one.
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  • SarasotaFrankSarasotaFrank Posts: 1,625 ✭✭
    the next car honest car salesman I meet will be the first.

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  • Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    99% of used car salesmen give the 1% a bad name.


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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HEY! We can't ALL grow up to be PRESIDENT !!!!


    Um...er.....sorry......THAT one doesn't work anymore, does it?

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  • MadMonkMadMonk Posts: 3,743 ✭
    Yeah, right!image
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  • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    The hierarchy= Judges, Politicians, Lawyers and, last but not least, Car Salesmen.image
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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    I have been around the use car business since I was 15 years old and have had my own small repair shop for many years and from my experience these last 25 years I would have to say only about 5-10% of used car lots are honestly run. In the past month I have been asked to falsify safety inspections or overlook things such as worn out brakes or expensive anti-freeze leaks(GM intake gaskets on about every V6 or V8), make fake bills for warranty work so the customer actually pays the whole bill, salesmen offering me money to doctor up bills on cars they sold so they don't get charged back from the dealership, another one the salesman like to pull is to ask you to bill the ticket to a different car other than the one they are selling at the moment so they get a bigger commission( I get a kick out of telling them I'll have to clear it with their boss first). New cars dealers are as bad or worse than the used car dealers. mike
  • ursabearursabear Posts: 1,888
    PutTogether,

    Amen. I've known lots of great people who sell cars. I sold them myself when I was first out of college. There was a (worse than now) recession going on, there were few jobs, and we needed to eat.

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  • bohica268bohica268 Posts: 478 ✭
    image - It is just a joke.
  • BowTieCoinsBowTieCoins Posts: 899
    bohica268- good one!!image

    Katrina
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    why, in Ohio, do car salesmen have to be FINGERPRINTED now???image

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