How did PCGS get the spots off??

Robgetty

I gave 2 proof Franklins to PCGS at the Baltimore show. One had a large
yellowish spot on Franklin's head, and the other had a large series of
black spots on the upper third of the coin. I was expecting them to either
downgrade the coin or body-bag them. Instead, I got back my coins without
any spots on them. (The one with the black marks still has a few residual
marks if you look close.)

I wasn't aware that PCGS would clean coins that came back to them. Now, I
am happy with the appearance of the cameo Franklin that came back, but I
am wondering how the marks can be removed and then not be BB'd.

nwcs

I'm not sure but once I sent in a frankie proof with red toning at the center. When I got it back, it had no red toning.

Theop

Must have come off when the grader put the trademark thumbprint on the coin.

XpipedreamR

Robgetty

majorbigtime

I didn't PCGS or any other service (except the NGC related conservation service) was supposed to "mess" with any coin!!

ms70

That's a plus. Were the grades what you expected?

mgoodm3

Switched at birth. Someone else has a couple new spotted frankies.

GregTheGreat

There are proper ways to clean coins however I would be mad if PCGS, NGC, ANACS, or any grading company would be messing with my coins. For all I know they might turn a 66 into a 65.... which might not mean a lot for a common date but when your talking early coinage or errors you are talking a HUGE difference. I really hope that someone can investigate into the problem as to why PCGS did such a thing.

Note: I have gotten the prestine FINGERPRINT on the DCAM!

-Greg

Myqqy

So, you paid for grading, and they graded your franklins and removed spots as well?? What were the grades given? No one mentioned the cleaning to you, or explained what was done?? Does anybody else have any experience with pcgs cleaning their coins??

ksteelheader

<< <i>Does anybody else have any experience with pcgs cleaning their coins?? >>

Yes.

Here!

RotatedRainbows

If I understand him correctly he submitted two coins for grade guarantee (already in PCGS slab) and they dipped the coins to remove the problem spots instead of down grading the coins as he expected. A little Tarn-X can work wonders.

Rampage

<< <i>For all I know they might turn a 66 into a 65.... which might not mean a lot for a common date but when your talking early coinage or errors you are talking a HUGE difference.
-Greg >>



Are you talking errors or varieties? Errors such as double strike, broadstrike, mated pairs, etc.......to me, the grade does not mean anything. On an error, you are paying for the error, not the grade.

Varieties (RPMs, OMMs, VAMs, DDOs, DDRs, etc.) on the other hand, you are paying for both.

Boom

Yes, I do and I don't appreciate it. I sent two very expensive coins in for regrade and PCGS cleaned them I am not at all pleased by this.

dorkkarl

a belt sander will remove most spots.

K S

GregTheGreat

I think the members of this board need to write PCGS (as well as other grading companies) and tell them not to clean our coins... I do not like the thought of some joe-nobody messing with coins that have takin me a lifetime to get. I know I am drafting my letter.

-Greg

Steve27

"I was expecting them to either downgrade the coin or body-bag them. Instead, I got back my coins without any spots on them."

I didn't know that PCGS "conserved" coins. You should ask David Hall about this; could they have sent them out to be conserved?

nwcs

PCGS does do some "conservation" of coins. Usually at a dealer's request.

mrpaseo

At this time I currently have two, count them two PCGS slabs with hair in them. Yes you read that right, HAIR in them!

I also have a bunch that have gone bad, you should see the 43 Lincolns..The slab says MS67... Very ugly coins inside.

mrpaseo

btw. I keep all the slabs in tuppaware with a silica thingymado in each one to keep the humidity down (Banks don't insure for this type of stuff so I have to take every precaution). Some of my Lincolns turned on me while I was deployed. The Silica is cooked at least Monthly so I don't know what made them turn.

Shamika

Robgetty,

You need to clarify whether these were sent in for regrade or sent raw. There's a big difference here.