Jars of coins. . . Update in 1st post. . .DDR, RPM

Agflyer

A friend brought over several mayo jars of U.S. coins that his mother used to hoard. From what I can tell at a quick glance the coins are Lincolns, Jeffersons, Roosies, Washingtons and Kennedy halves. There are quite a few wheat backs and some silver. I know to look for the 1982 no "P" Roosies, 1985 no "P" Washington, and of course the major varieties like the 1955 dd Lincoln (yea that's going to happen), but that's all I'm remembering at the moment. Could you fine people of the U.S. coin forum list some additional things that I should look for from, say, from the 1950's to present? I'm thinking rpm's, doubled dies, etc. Thanks!

Here's what I've found so far:

Lincolns = 1988-d rpm, uncirculated. This one is pretty neat since the underlying "D" is zinc while the upper "D" is copper. A neat contrast.

Washingons = 1965 machine doubled bust. Obvious shelf doubling of Washington's face and up there with the coolness factor. And the one that I'm most excited about. . . 1967 doubled die reverse. Under 10x, there is doubling in the letters, "ited States of Am" and "E" of (E Pluribus Unum). The "Sta" in states has the widest spread with split serifs in both "S's" and the "A". I grade this quarter at xf45. I'm sorry I don't have any photos, though I am thinking of purchasing the Coin Scope and accessories for my Ebay auctions. I'll be able to post photos then.

JrGMan2004

Get the Red Book They list most of the major varieties that are worth finding. You could also get a copy of the Cherrypicker's Guide.

flaminio

<< <i>Jars of coins. What should I be looking for? >>

A CoinStar machine?

dpoole

You'll probably wind up just pulling out the silver.

LAWMAN

Learn how to handle coins. Get some white gloves and some non-PVC flips and study the redbook first. Enjoy!

cladking

The Redbook lists the more popular varieties but not necessarily the more important
or the more valuable ones. There are far too many varieties to list them all, but most
are listed in the cherry pickers guide or the various books on the different denominations.
Don't ignore the "common" coins either. Many of the later date coins are difficult to find
in unc and high grade XF and better can occasionally be found in circulation.

There are dozens of varieties which aren't listed in any of the books yet. The only way to
keep up is to watch the articles in Coin World and other coin papers. You can even find
them yourself with patience and experience.

There is an '89 No mint mark quarter caused by a filled die which was hot 14 years ago
but these are difficult to find in circulation and there is little interest in them now days.
There are two different obverses used on the '85-P quarter, though. One has a large
bust of Washington and the scarcer has a small bust. It is easily seen especially in the
distance between the E of LIBERTY and the top of Washington's head.

coppercoins

Lincoln cents:

1955P DDO (one obvious, the other less obvious but much rarer)
1955D DDO (doubled eye)
1958P strong DDO (exceedingly rare)
1959P DDO (three different nice ones)
1960P small date
1960P DDR (strong extra thickness)
1960D Small/Large date + RPM
1961D D/ horizontal D
1963D 3/low 3
1964P strong DDR
1969S strong DDO (very rare)
1970S strong DDO (very rare)
1970S small date
1971P strong DDO
1972P DDO (seven different easily visible)
1972D DDO (four different easily visible)
1980D D/S OMM
1982P DDO (large date copper)
1983P DDO (three different easily visible)
1983P DDR
1984P DDO (doubled ear and beard)
1985D RPMs (many nice ones)
1986D RPMs (many nice ones)
1987D RPMs (many nice ones)
1988P DDO (strong but rare)
1988D RPMs (many nice ones)
1989D RPMs (many nice ones)
1989P DDO (many different ones with extra thickness)
1994P DDR (extra column inside far right column)
1995P DDO (two different ones...one common, the other rare)
1995D DDO (three different ones...one is strong and rare)
1996P DDO
1997P DDO (doubled earlobe)
1998, 1999, 2000P "wide AM"

The Red Book doesn't even touch what's out there, and the Cherrypicker's Guide only lists a few of them. The list above is from memory and is far from complete...I only listed those which are worth mentioning and can be detected using a 10X loupe.

cladking

OK. Here are most of the quarters.

Several of the early date quarters can be found with type "b" reverses.
All '77 to '84 (except '82-P) quarters can be found with type "d" reverses.
The '73 can be found with the reverse of '72, and the '74-P and D can be found with reverses of both '72 and '73.
The '68-D, '71,'71-D and '72-D come with strong DDR's
The '85-P comes with the small bust.
The '65 and '76-D has a strong DDO. (these are rare and valuable)
'70-D has a nice DDO and a minor DDR.
"88-P, '89-P, and '90-P appear without mint marks due to filled die.
There's an '84-D/D

There are also various SMS DDO's and DDR's which might be encountered. Hold onto
any of the pre-1982 issues in nice XF or better and the '82- '93 in attractive AU. Later
issues can occasionally be found in unc, save choice and better. Always keep a look
out for recent date gems of any denomination. If you handle a lot of change you can
actually find a few each year this way.

There are increasing numbers of bicentennial coins being seen and many are high grade.
Unless there is something special about one it is likely best to spend them.

coppercoins

I should have added that die varieties of some sort or fashion are known for all dates and mints of Lincoln cents between 1955 and 1998 except for 1967, 1973D, 1973S, 1977P, 1978P, 1978D, 1979P, 1981P, 1991D, 1993D, 1994D, 1996D, and 1997D...so there's something to be watching for in nearly every date. The guides list less than ten percent of what is known to exist.

Agflyer

Wow, thank you all very much for the many different suggestions. Coppercoins and Cladking, your lists were very generously put together . Thanks again. Of course I'll post any findings after the weekend. . . at which point I may go looking for that Coinstar machine . Just kidding.

Agflyer

TTT

atarian

im lost


DDO
DDR
RPM



huh?

Agflyer

Here you go:
DDR = doubled die reverse
DDO = doubled die obverse
RPM = repunched mint mark

JRocco

Just found this nice DDO 1944P, verified by C.D. (coppercoins.com) so I know its the real deal. This coin was not discovered till now---AMAZING.

Or look for this 1950P DDO also a discovery coin and verified by Charles.

Spinynorman

Agflyer, are you sure the 88D is an RPM and not just a split in the plating (which is pretty common on those)? Either way, good luck with your hunt.

Agflyer

Nice find JRocco, great photos too!
Spiny, a split in the plating is actually a fairly probable description of what I found. I don't really see that the zinc "mint mark" is raised, so I think you're on to something. Thanks a lot . . . just kidding. Learning about coins is why I'm here.

coppercoins

<< <i>Lincolns = 1988-d rpm, uncirculated. This one is pretty neat since the underlying "D" is zinc while the upper "D" is copper. A neat contrast. >>



I can just about guarantee you 100% that what you have there is not an RPM. It is the result of the copper plating (micro-thin) splitting from the impact of the die onto the planchet. These are VERY common from 1982 through 1989 and are worth nothing over the value of a normal coin for the date and grade.

cladking

Wexler lists the '67 DDR as rare and worth $35 in XF.

This sounds pretty low if this is it. It's class 5 doubling and the underlying image is to the left
on the E PLURIBUS UNUM. Look for a die crack under the MER of AMERICA.

Good luck.

Agflyer

This sounds pretty low if this is it. It's class 5 doubling and the underlying image is to the left
on the E PLURIBUS UNUM. Look for a die crack under the MER of AMERICA.

The underlying image is to the left. Unfortunately I don't see the die crack. I do, however, plan on submitting to ANACS in the near future. Maybe I'll just have to include this one along with the group. Thanks for the info.

cladking

The crack would be of little significance if the coin is early die state.

For '67 quarters that means if you can make out the wording it's not late die state yet.