Unopened pack heaven!

TheCARDKid

Mastro has done it again. Wow.







http://www.mastronet.com

DrNguyenVanFalk

Don't see this one every day . . .

The amount of unopened product out there (particularly vending) is staggering. This Mastro auction is probably only the tip of the iceberg.

packCollector

this creates an interesting topic. is it really the tip of the iceberg? There are some rather large private collections of unopened material out there , are there cases of this stuff lying around , probably not. with the huge premiums and prices this stuff has been going for in the large auction houses , it draws a lot more items for sale. with that said , although there are a lot of nice items in the mastro auction , it is not like there is enough to go around . my 2 cents

DrNguyenVanFalk

<< <i>this creates an interesting topic. is it really the tip of the iceberg? There are some rather large private collections of unopened material out there , are there cases of this stuff lying around , probably not. with the huge premiums and prices this stuff has been going for in the large auction houses , it draws a lot more items for sale. with that said , although there are a lot of nice items in the mastro auction , it is not like there is enough to go around . my 2 cents >>



Good point; I guess it is a question of perspective. I don't suppose there are cases of, say, 1966 Topps baseball lying around. But the market certainly has reacted to the higher prices realized by unopened product. Boxes are coming out of the woodwork; it will be interesting to see when (and if) prices level off. I think we are already seeing some softening on unopened packs that seem to be generally available (1972 and 1975 baseball, in particular).

For example, the upcoming Mastro auction has 6 (6!) vending boxes of 1971 Topps baseball, series 4 through 6. That's 3,000 cards to potentially hit the PSA population report. And there is another vending lot of 5,000 1971 semi-high numbers, including 211 Harmon Killebrews (!!). Is there enough demand out there to soak these up? We'll see. Browsing through the latest Mastro auction listings makes me realize we are in a pretty neat era in this hobby, with lots of supply, lots of demand, and lots of liquidity for quality collectibles.

mikeschmidt

I recall someone out there saying that he had a friend with significant unopened in his basemant/warehouse - including a 1971 Topps wax case and a 1958!! Topps wax case.

I was surprised to see three 1972 vending boxes - with the seemingly idiotic claim of "Three case-fresh vending boxes from 1972. When their case was cracked open, none of the boxes were examined and the boxes are not marked by series. So, we will let the bidder determine if these boxes contain "semi-high" and "high number" cards! All three boxes are graded NM 7 by GAI". If these really came from a case, and it was recent - would someone not look into at least ONE of the TWENTY-FOUR vending boxes to determine the series? Methinkso. There is just a significant value differentation between the different series. Oh well.

~ms

DrNguyenVanFalk

<< <i>I was surprised to see three 1972 vending boxes - with the seemingly idiotic claim of "Three case-fresh vending boxes from 1972. When their case was cracked open, none of the boxes were examined and the boxes are not marked by series. So, we will let the bidder determine if these boxes contain "semi-high" and "high number" cards! All three boxes are graded NM 7 by GAI". If these really came from a case, and it was recent - would someone not look into at least ONE of the TWENTY-FOUR vending boxes to determine the series? Methinkso. There is just a significant value differentation between the different series. Oh well. >>



I laughed at that as well. Mastro's developing a bit of a "credibility gap" with their descriptions. Perhaps the case originated from a Topps executive, and later became the gift of a father to his son?

mikeschmidt

I'm sure it's appropriate to implicate GAI as a co-conspirator!

thefootballcardstore

If you Football guys haven't looked yet, it is all so very tempting.
I might have to win it all. So don't even try bidding - I will crush you.

1969 PSA 9s, 1970 PSA 9s, 1971 Box, 1968 Graded Box, 1968 Namath PSA 10 - IT'S ALL MINE!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Jeremy

packCollector

what about the case fresh 60 and 61 vending? hmmmmmm!!!! as far as the 72's , give me abreak , someone had a case opened it and not 1 box was cracked to see what they had, all 24 boxes were sold blind and everyones lips were sealed, no pun intended

highend

as mikeschmidt and packcollector stated , i am also skeptical on the 72's as well. besides, a vending box with a grade of GAI 7 isn't all that impressive i would imagine it was knocked around a little and with vending one drop could mean dinged corners galore.

TheCARDKid

Another very cool pack.

Any guesses on the '57/58 Topps pack? I'm guessing $8,000 - $12,000.

mojorob

Is that 62 Topps Football just the box up for auction.......or is it full of unopened packs??
I don't get Mastro's catelog.
Thanks in advance!

Mojorob

SKINSFAN

skerbes had that 68 Namath ten listed couple months ago for 5k.
that 68 box perks my interest may need to bump heads with my buddy in fla

DrNguyenVanFalk

Mojorob,

The 1962 football wax box is full of packs (24), graded by GAI (with grades ranging from 7 to 9).

What do you think it will sell for? Is $18,000 ($750/pack) too high of an estimate?

packCollector

you never can tell with mastro, yes that would be high but look at the 69 basketball box that went for over 40k last auction , almost double normal market prices

thefootballcardstore

<< <i>that 68 box perks my interest may need to bump heads with my buddy in fla >>



I'll have to find my helmet, it's around here somewhere.
But seriously, no matter how much I bid in the Mastronet auction, even if it's insane crazy - I never win anything.

Tough competition! Jeremy