WHEN WILL NGC RID THOSE STUPID WHITE HOLDERS?
marcmoish
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Exactly what it says - my chief complaint and putting aside any grading dissagreements are any coins smaller than a half dollar look totally entombed in those white plastic holders depriving the holder of much added satisfaction. I totally hate it with a passion. Any comments.
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On the other hand, I really like the smaller ANACS holder with the white insert.
Rich
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White holders are good. Blemishes can be spotted in a white background than a clear background.
I like em
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I agree. I am embarrassed to say that I have passed on coins (recently a very cool proof gold dollar) that I probably should have purchased because of the color of the holder. If NGC had a clear holder, I would have all of my NGC coins reholdered to the clear holder. That's how strongly I feel about it.
That said, I also understand that many prefer the white holder, and they are certainly entitled to their opinion. It is a matter of personal preference, not me (and others) trying to tell others what they should have or like.
<< <i>I agree. I am embarrassed to say that I have passed on coins (recently a very cool proof gold dollar) that I probably should have purchased because of the color of the holder. If NGC had a clear holder, I would have all of my NGC coins reholdered to the clear holder. That's how strongly I feel about it.
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Why would the holder stop you from buying a coin that you like? You can crack it out, send it in for crossover or whatever else suits your fancy. I take it you don't follow the guide "buy the coin, not the holder".
I don't have a problem with NGC holders for most coins. When the coin gets really small, i.e. a half dime or 3CS, the holder tends to cast too much of a shadow and I can't appreciate the coin. I can always tilt it to inspect it before buying it.
Once the holder has done it's job of authenticating the coin, giving a grade opinion, and preventing the previous owner(s) (since encapulation) from putting their mitts or whatever on the coin's surfaces, I usually like to get the coins out and display them in albums or safeflips.
my coins still in tpg holders are all quarter size and larger, I do prefer a white background for color coins but in most all other cases prefer the "look" of PCGS blue holders.
My biggest complaint about NGC is sometimes they don't even get the denomination right
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Once you crack it out, it's raw again. Leave it in the slab, that way, there is definitive proof that the coin is the coin you say it is if you ever want to sell. Even if you don't want to sell it later, it's a) protected, b) has an official grade, c) won't lower it's value.
Any coin I ever get that is slabbed, will remain so, regardless if it "fills" a hole in an album. I would now have the coin, the "hole" is filled, regardless if the coin is physically in the album itself.
I'm all for slabs. In fact, I'd like to have more than the 1 I have (including that toilet seat shaped one... I thought that was rather cool).
--Severian the Lame
Sure I buy the coin, not the holder. But you happen to get the holder with the coin. I have limited experience with submissions and crossovers, but still enough to know there is no guarantee that your coin will cross--far from it. What if I cracked the coin out, and it came back one or two points down on the grade. I would not like the coin any less, but it certainly would be worth a whole lot less when it came time to sell. Or what if the coin came back in a BB. I would expect that eventually I could get the coin in the same grade PCGS holder, but there may be risk, heartache, aggravation, and expense. Not worth it to me.
I do regret not buying the proof gold dollar. It was a cool coin. I did try to buy it, but I waited too long to ask about it, and someone else stepped in and bought while I was thinking about it. The unattractive slab made me hesitate. My bad. If NGC offered a clear slab, I would have bought the coin in a heartbeat and had it reholdered.
I'm not a fan at all of the NGC or ANACS slabs. I like the PCGS, ICG, & SEGS slabs.
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I've had a # of similar situations too. If I need to purchase a coin already that is entombed for whatever reasons - I may as well purchase one that my eyes will enjoy seeing over and over and not one that I will curse at for poor presentation relative to size of the coin.
Marc
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<< <i>I don't mind the white (I like ANACS holders). However, I mind that the insert is so thick. >>
Ditto. With ANACS holders even smaller coins are near the surface and aren't obscured like they are in NGC holders. Besides the thickness of the insert in an NGC burying smaller coins, the type and thickness of the plastic itself diminishes the contrast on cameo proofs.
Russ, NCNE
bring back the black holders.
Most agree that this should be done for gold coins, or at least be an option.
Anyone have a photo of one of those?
I agree, too. The white NGC insert visually overwhelms smaller coins, both in its area and its volume. I still think that a clear insert would be an improvement. The thinner slabs (PCGS, NGC) are easier to hold in my (small-size 6 1/2) hand, and you can cram more thinner slabs into a Slab Caddy.
I think it's time someone invented a digital holder, that could change from clear to black to white, depending on the wishes of the current owner. Sometimes I wish I was an engineer or techie guy......
Marc
Add to it a REALLY thick holder that could accept sorta a watch winding stem so the coin could be ROTATED in the holder. Wrap it all in a huge plastic bag so it would be sealed and airtight even when being wound or "rotated." Fill the bag with inert Argon and keep it on a string like a balloon.
No?
Why not?
Ken
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Tom
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Tom Pilitowski
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Woweee Bailey, isn't that the famous 1957 "pattern" half dollar? You should see about a front page story for this discovery!
Congratulations!
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Tom
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
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