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Another example of ending an auction early

ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
I had been watching this PCGS MS-63 1852 gold dollar on eBay in a three-day auction ending a little more than an hour ago. With a few minutes to go, the coin had a high bid a little over $600. (Current trends value is $1300.) I was thinking of putting in a late snipe considerably above that. Naturally, it started with a ridiculous $9.99 opening bid and no reserve. Now with raw gold I assume "scam" or "fake," but with a pretty solid feedback history and a PCGS holder, what the heck? I'll watch it.

And *shazam* -- two and a half minutes before auction was to end, all bids were cancelled and the auction called off.

Not to resurrect a dead thread, but it sucks that there's no way for ANYONE to track this sort of thing in their feedback history.

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  • MacCoinMacCoin Posts: 2,544 ✭✭
    ain't that some poop and these clown get bent if you retract a bid with 5 days before closing. I think they should have 12 hour before auctions close to end the bidding early.
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  • There's probably so much crap going on at Ebay that this pales in comparison. While it sucks, this is a victimless crime as no one was hurt and the only loser is the preson trying to get something for nothing.

    What do you think happens at major coin auctions? Ever hear of a "buy-back"?

    Like it or not, most schrewd auction sellers will find a way to protect themselves at little or no cost. It's the widows and orphans in estate sales who get screwed, whether selling outright or at auction.
  • I confess !
    it wasnt me !
    last bid was 633.05 and the PCGS guide is 1150.00,unless the guide is really off on this issue,the seller stepped on his/her unit !
    seller is at fault for the auction ending time ! (been there,done that)
    unless i have something that i just want to give away,my sales will end @ 8 pm PDT on Sat or Sun nites !

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available for sale. >>



    He probably sold the coin at his shop or a show. I'm sure it must just be coincidence that the sale occurred 2.5 minutes before it was closing on eBay.

    Russ, NCNE
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>[He probably sold the coin at his shop or a show. I'm sure it must just be coincidence that the sale occurred 2.5 minutes before it was closing on eBay. >>

    Ha! I plan to see if this seller offers it again, and I'll be asking them a question: Why should I bid on this item when you have a history of cancelling auctions on this coin a couple minutes before I could snipe a $1,200 bid on it? image
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,149 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>While it sucks, this is a victimless crime as no one was hurt and the only loser is the preson trying to get something for nothing.
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    Not a victimless crime. Suppose you are looking for an example, and you pass on one because you will bid on this one?
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  • At the risk of pi$$ing on someone's fire, until Ebay makes this something that is not allowed, complaining will not get anything accomplished!
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Victimless or not, and while I agree there are bigger scams on eBay, it's still shaky ethics and I think those of us who are buyers want to know about this just as sellers want to know about folks bidding on their auctions who regularly retract or fail to pay when they win.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>complaining will not get anything accomplished! >>



    Not true. It gives us something to talk about.

    Russ, NCNE
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>At the risk of pi$$ing on someone's fire, until Ebay makes this something that is not allowed, complaining will not get anything accomplished! >>

    Wrong.

    It can alert other would-be buyers that this is a seller they might want to avoid if they find this practice objectionable. That accomplishes *something*. Until eBay gives us a way to measure this aspect of a seller's performance (the equivalent of a retracted bid, which is shown), we have to watch out for ourselves.
  • Not a victimless crime. Suppose you are looking for an example, and you pass on one because you will bid on this one?

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    Still, no pain, no gain. You haven't lost a cent.

    You may have missed an opportunity, but if there were two of 'em for sale at the same time, another will probably be along soon.

    Perhaps Ebay should charge a fee to end an auction, just like a "buy back" fee at a major coin auction!
  • Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    Let's say an auction starts at .99 and the seller has no reserve. The seller wants to realize 500 bucks for his coin. Let's say someone opens the bid with .99 and I bid 500 bucks. The auction runs it's course and the seller cancels at the end because the current bid is 1.24

    That probably happens when sellers fail to spend the extra 5 bucks for a reserve auction.


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  • Life is full of insignificant little pitfalls and losses! I tend not to worry about them and move on! While you spend your time here worrying and complaining about it, another similar coin could come and go without you even knowing about it!
  • Life is full of insignificant little pitfalls and losses! I tend not to worry about them and move on! While you spend your time here worrying and complaining about it, another similar coin could come and go without you even knowing about it!

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    I agree wholehartedly!!!

    As you say, life is too short!!
  • eBay doesn't care because they still get the listing fee and they get to charge them again when they re-list it.
    As long as they come out ahead they will look the other way!!!

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