Please don't tell me this is a fake, I just bought it.

bestbino

Any opinion on grade and worth.







My Ebay

Placid

XF probably. Worth more than $51 if real. More like $300.

Louis

Looks suspicious to me. Maybe a cast ?

100proof1957

not with my money

flaminio

It's a fake!

Catch22

VF-30 Looks original and worth about 70 bucks retail, maybe 50 or so wholesale. Oops, my bad, I thought it was a Half. Nevermind.....

Gonfunko

Sorry, but I have to agree. You said not to tell you it's fake, so I won't. I just think it may be "Authenticity Challenged".

ohiogoke

Check the guys feedback. You will find your answer!

Matt

bestbino

This is all very interesting. Does anyone see anything specific standing out as a fake. So far 3 votes for Real and 5 votes for Fake.
This might just be worth sending to Anacs to see if it comes back in a body bag.

Gonfunko

There's not one thing in particular that stands out from my point of view, it just doesn't quite look right. I'm no expert, though, so I could be wrong. Sending it in might be a good idea.

Louis

Around the rim and on the obverse devices there seem to be some small voids where the metal didn't flow correctly when cast. Just an observation, I'm no expert.

Good luck.

ziggy29

Same seller,
also an 1871 dollar, feedback for this item was negative because the buyer said it was a "cast fake." Also the "I know nothing about coins and all sales are final" are common terms scammers use.

There's also two other negatives this seller has which accuse him of selling fakes.

Between the multiple accusations of fakes and the "I know nothing and no returns" stuff, I'd run far, far away.

bestbino

Hey, It looks like a couple of Swing votes here. The score is now 5 to 5 Ok lets regroup and take another look

Russ

The feather detail on the eagle looks a little strange to me; particularly the legs.

Russ, NCNE

100proof1957

I am no xpert.
it looks like a casting to me.

Proof

Louis

Do you have the votes being counted in Florida ? I only see one that appears to be of the opinion that it's real.

Catch22

Anyone who bids on something from ebay where the seller clearly states that all sales are final and no returns gets what they deserve...especially when the seller has recent negs for selling fake stuff. Caveat Emptor.

bestbino

Here they are side by side. the top photo came from this site as a Master Photo

mrdq

do you have it yet? is it medal flip or coin flip? (if you flip it end for end does the eagle end up standing on his head or his feet)

topstuf

It would help if the image showed the .....SPRUE.

bestbino

Tom - I don't have it yet. So, the coin toss will have to wait a few days.

EagleEye

Just by looking at the other copies sold by the seller you should know you got a copy.

I like the sellers defense "I know nothing about coins so all sales are final." The idiot's defense.

On a side note, during the past ANA Summer Seminar I was talking to my good friend J. P. Martin about recent travels. He was in China and was able to buy a nearly complete set of Seated Dollars for "3 for a buck". I think it was a complete date set, not a date/MM set, although I bet you could find some 1873-S ones if you looked.

bestbino

Yes, this does go by Florida rules. All Hanging Chads go to the right. I need all the help I can get on this one.
Now, Double check the tiny Wing feature on the Master copy. Just across from the U in United.

stujoe

<< <i>Any opinion on grade and worth.

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In addition to the negatives saying he sent fakes, the seller's most recent postiive says "nice repro' as in reproduction on an auction that was not listed as such.

Also the seller is not a profesional dealer (or even a collector), offers no returns, and it was available for a steal of a price.

You can draw your own conclusions as to what happened to you.

mr1931S

From your pics, the coin doesn't appear to me to be sharp enough in details to be genuine.

I have a friend who bought a dozen what he thought to be real Bust dollars from an individual. They were all cast counterfeits.