Is this a die chip in Abes eye? I bought this a while ago as a doubled die

tsacch

I seriously doubt it though.

tsacch

Anyones thoughts?

mozeppa

looks like a doubled eye variety to me ....(lots of them though...many different years)

tsacch

I dont have a cherry pickers......... its a 1953-D any value, or just the $1 i paid for it?

JRocco

Here is a 48D, they do not command a premium to my knowledge.

upnorth1973

the only variety listed in the cherrypickers is for the 1953 d is the RPM #1

tsacch

which cherry pickers? is the new one even out yet?

upnorth1973

fourth edition volume 1

mozeppa

coneca would list it ....worth? ...a buck...maybe

coppercoins

These are doubled dies, they are class 4 offset hub doubling, and they do not command very much premium, although a buck is quite low. I have seen them sell for up to $10 in uncirculated condition depending on the date and mintmark. Some of the better doubled eyelid cents sell for upwards from $50 in uncirculated.

As for the Cherrypicker's Guide, the "new" one on cents has been out for four years or more. The book that has been delayed umpteen times does not include any information for cents, it is intended to be dimes to dollars, and I believe gold. It is the second half of a two volume book, the first of which came out in 1999, I believe.

Another thing regarding the Cherrypicker's Guide is that not all die varieties worth a premium are listed therein. For the Lincoln cent series alone, there are nearly two thousand different die varieties that command at least a modest premium, and the Cherrypicker's Guide lists fewer than two hundred of them. The Cherrypicker's Guide is just another in a long list of "best of" books without any resemblance of being a "complete" attribution reference. If you are considering die varieties as "non-existent" because they are not listed in the CPG, you are dead wrong.

coinguy89

I couldn't even tell that that was a doubled die.

coppercoins

Dies start out with a slightly conical shape. Many times there would be some offset between the first and subsequent hubbings, but often this would not show because in the first hubbing only the very central portions of the design came through. In rather uncommon cases the central elements of this first hubbing would show clearly through the subsequent hubbings (such as the 1984 doubled ear and the 1941 DDO with doubling on the ear, TY of LIBERTY, and the 19 of the date) but much more common is the happenstance doubled eyelid, which just happens to be a deep cavity area in the hub that preserves itself well when transferred to a die, which is the reason most of these doubled dies only show in the eye area.

There are a number of better examples of doubled eyelids that show much better doubling in the eye area. I can think of two 1942P dies, two 1943D dies, and a 1955D die right off the top of my head that are without question doubled dies. Only one of the 1942 dies and the 1955D die are listed in the CPG, even though the others I mentioned are just as strong and just as valuable as the two they happened to choose to list. All of the minor doubled eyelids are baby examples of the exact same style of hub doubling...and indeed ARE doubled dies.

tsacch

Sweet, thanks for the info....................

So the $1 I paid for it isnt too bad then, as its been enjoyable to my kids and I.

Thanks all.

Tom

JRocco

Thanks for that explanation C.D. Just another example of the many die varieties there are out there.