Would PSA grade something like this?

jsnpritchett

I know someone else was asking about hand-cutting some cards today. What's PSA's take on cards like these, which were issued by SSPC in the late '70s? I'm probably one of a very few people who would be interested in something like this, but I'm just curious. Opinions? Thanks!





Jason

jsnpritchett

I think I've answered my own question. I found this in the Pop Report:

1978 SSPC All Star Gallery card

The question still remains, though: what would be considered "correct" edges, etc. for a card like this? Where should each card be cut from the sheet?

Jason

jsnpritchett

Ok, now that I've found out PSA *will* grade these, I'm still a bit confused as to how to cut them from the sheet. PSA's guidelines seem to require evidence of the dotted border on hand-cut cards. However, as you can see from this close-up pic, there's no way you can do that for all the cards:



The center card in each sheet would be the only one that would show evidence of borders on all 4 sides.

Any advice or suggestions on how to handle this?

Jason

CON40

Jason;

Lots of interest in that one sir! Every Ryan guy would love to have that card in a PSA slab... don't underestimate the interest in oddball Ryans... a PSA 9 of that would probably get you $100! We're a loopy group.

You'll have to trim it out so that all 4 borders on the back are visible... if you want to do the Ryan, you'll have to sacrifice all of the cards that surround it.

jsnpritchett

I'm interested in getting the WHOLE Angels set graded. That's the problem. I've been e-mailing back and forth with someone from PSA who's been offering some suggestions--but I didn't realize how the backside borders were until just a little while ago. It seems like there would need to be some sort of exception to the "visible borders" rule for this set. It doesn't seem particularly fair, given that the borders on this set aren't like a lot of other sheet card sets.

I'm perplexed by this one! I just won a set, so I need to figure out what to do.

Jason

CON40

Jason;

Maybe if you cut right ON the dotted line so it shows on every card, you might have a chance... but PSA requests that you trim beyond it otherwise you'll just get an "authentic" grade and nothing more.

I would try to meet with someone from PSA in person at a show and have them walk you through it... but don't be surprised if you have to buy several mags to get the whole set.

I have one mag and I plan to do the Ryan eventually. You can have the rest of the book if that helps (especially if you have an extra Ryan along the way that you can trade back)... in any event, good luck.

jsnpritchett

I hope to god I can figure out some way to get them graded without having to buy several books! I just paid $14.50 for the one I bought. I'm not willing to buy 4 books (which I think is the minimum needed to be able to cut out all the cards with evidence of borders), PLUS pay $8 or whatever per card. It could end up getting pretty expensive--especially if some of the cards don't come back in PSA 8 or higher.

I'm going to keep e-mailing with Richard Verdugo at PSA to see if there's a solution.

Thanks for your thoughts, and let's keep in touch, just in case we can help each other out.

Jason

Spigrimace

I am more of a purist and would say NOT to cut it up. Maybe the question is why wouldn't PSA grade the booklet as a whole? See by cutting it up you are taking away that nice cover shot and that Johnny Bench page. To me you are ruining the booklet. It's like taking chewbacca out of the packaging or tossing out that old Hess Truck box.

Some of us here on the boards felt that cutting up a jersey to get a patch, or to splinter up a bat to get a sliver is destroying a collectable. Why would this not apply here? I understand cutting out from those mac n cheese boxes or Hostess boxes where there isn't anything else to save as a collectible interest. Let's say they were perforated, I don't understand why people were ripping out Tiger Woods cards from that old SI Kids, look how value plummets when you separate that 1980 Bird/Magic card!

Just remember once you cut it out, you cannot put it back together! Maybe buy a second one and keep it whole just in case!

Spigrimace

And I also think at $14.50 that is a cooooool fun collectible that we all pretty much can afford. Isn't that what this is all about?

jrdolan

<< <i>I am more of a purist and would say NOT to cut it up. Maybe the question is why wouldn't PSA grade the booklet as a whole? >>


PSA doesn't have magazine-size slabs, for one thing. Even if they did, you wouldn't be able to open the mag and what fun is that?

jsnpritchett

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<< <i>I am more of a purist and would say NOT to cut it up. Maybe the question is why wouldn't PSA grade the booklet as a whole? >>


PSA doesn't have magazine-size slabs, for one thing. Even if they did, you wouldn't be able to open the mag and what fun is that? >>



Exactly. If you slab the whole magazine, the only thing you would be able to see would be the front and back covers. I'm interested in the individual cards, and not the content in the magazine necessarily.

Also, I got another e-mail from Richard Verdugo at PSA. I sent him the same pics that I posted in this thread, including the one of the backside of the cards. His response was "Cut on the black borders. If they look like cards and the cuts are straight you should be fine." So, it looks like Con40's suggestion of cutting right on the line was correct. I'm going to save Richard's e-mail and send it in with any submission I make on these.

Jason