The seller ended this listing early because..........
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The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the minimum bid or Reserve amount.
The seller ended this listing early because they're a stupid butthead and don't know how to list their coins, so they have weaseled out of losing money due to stupidity.
The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available.
The seller ended this listing early because some stupid butthead interfered with an auction off the eBay system.
These have got to be the two most abused "seller" options at eBay. Is there any way of knowing how many times a seller does this, much in the manner that a buyer has their retracted bids noted in their feedback profile?? Probably not. If a bidder is held to a contract and subject to penalty regarding a bid, shouldn't sellers be held to the same standard?? Again, probably not.
It's discouraging especially when it's board members who abuse this. For shame, for shame...........A pox on you abusers, and you know who you are!!!! OK, my rant's done and I definitely feel better. You listing enders can bite my shorts!!
Al H.
The seller ended this listing early because they're a stupid butthead and don't know how to list their coins, so they have weaseled out of losing money due to stupidity.
The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available.
The seller ended this listing early because some stupid butthead interfered with an auction off the eBay system.
These have got to be the two most abused "seller" options at eBay. Is there any way of knowing how many times a seller does this, much in the manner that a buyer has their retracted bids noted in their feedback profile?? Probably not. If a bidder is held to a contract and subject to penalty regarding a bid, shouldn't sellers be held to the same standard?? Again, probably not.
It's discouraging especially when it's board members who abuse this. For shame, for shame...........A pox on you abusers, and you know who you are!!!! OK, my rant's done and I definitely feel better. You listing enders can bite my shorts!!
Al H.
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that's as close as the emot-icons come to proper expression!!!!!!
al h.
Hmmm...... so is somebody talkin' a little smack???
I cancled three auctions today and sold them to a forum member. We chat all the time and have PM's that are in the hundreds. Was I wrong?
David
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These have got to be the two most abused "seller" options at eBay. Is there any way of knowing how many times a seller does this, much in the manner that a buyer has their retracted bids noted in their feedback profile?? Probably not. If a bidder is held to a contract and subject to penalty regarding a bid, shouldn't sellers be held to the same standard?? Again, probably not.
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You are right, no way to tell other then going back thru the closed auctions of a seller. This is more damaging to Ebay's bottom line then bidders who cancel a bid so you would think Ebay would keep a running total. For some reason Ebay holds buyers to a higher standard then sellers even though it should be the other way around.
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For example, I had an 1813 PCGS AU50 Half Eagle for 1 cent no reserve earlier this year. A dealer wrote me and asked to stop the auction for 4400$. I REALLY wanted to take him up on it but there were bids so I decided to let it run...
What did it close for??? 4250$ and he didnt even bid!!
Ebay is the contributor to this because they allow for so much crap and crappy sellers that people are afraid to bid on high end coins, even certified ones in many cases.
There is my vent. I havent ended stuff early yet but I feel like I am being pushed that way.
V.r,
John
siliconvalleycoins.com
The SGS 70 is going to Uncle Joe on the wager we made "PR68 or 69 @ PCGS or i pay the fee's and forfeit the coin,if it goes 68-9 Joe pays all the fee's and returns the coin to me"
Everybody here had the opportunity to make an offer on every one of these coins 3 days before they were listed on EBAY !
Had the bids been even decent i would have sold them.
Everybody wanted a "RIP",wasnt gonna happen,30 cents on the Dollar i paid ? nope !
I decided i was going to send them in for cross at any grade,these are every bit as nice as the PCGS coins i have seen,why should i take a beating when they may all cross and double in value just because people like the PCGS plastic ?
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UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH!!!!!!!!!
The nice people on eBay are very cheap.
In the last few weeks I've been hit pretty bad.
Lately all of my buyers are either coin shops or eBay power-sellers stocking up. I'm selling $50-$100 coins for less than the slabbing fees.
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<< <i>I'm selling $50-$100 coins for less than the slabbing fees >>
What did you say your eBay userid was?
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I was bidding too and got bumped. I had no idea you offered them for sale on this forum....as i dont buy here often. Regarding you not getting your price/bid, I totally understand but it is an auction and you could have put and should have put a reserve....imho. Also, how do you know what max bids were put in? You may have gotten what you wanted had you let it run its course.
It sucks as a bidder when you get that email from ebay saying bids were cancelled.
There should be a way to track on the feedback how many times auctions were ended early, just as they track bid retractions for a 6 month period.
Now i have to bid elsewhere if i want a cameo bald dude.
<< <i>Some people get discouraged too easily. Ive seen 400 percent bid increases in the last ten minutes of an auction on some coins. >>
Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Not everyone who lists on eBay is garage sale-ing.
high bids when the auction was ended early are accessible to the seller.
A: I should not have listed the items when i did.
B: I should have used a reserve.
C: I should have known nobody would buy a nice coin in an NGC holder for a fair price.
<< <i>Past performance is not a guarantee of future results. Not everyone who lists on eBay is garage sale-ing. >>
Nope, they're not -- you're right. But if you list with a very low starting bid and no reserve, then you ARE garage sale-ing, or at least communicating to your bidders that you are willing to do so.
And you should, as a seller, be BOUND to it just as bidders are bound to honor their bids.
Honestly, sellers are trying to have it both ways here. They're trying to reduce listing fees and draw out more bids with low starting bids and no reserves, and then they cancel auctions where legitimate, within-the-rules bids from bidders with reliable, trustworthy feedback histories have been made.
And if you don't want to be "garage sale-ing," add a decent reserve or start the bidding at the lowest you'll accept.
I snipe just as often as the next guy. However, I hate selling on ebay and had rather keep it simple and straight forward rather than see the coin double in price within the last minute of the auction.
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Thomas Paine
I have been contacted by a forum member to end a current auction. I told them politely I can't because it has bids. They said they would be ready to snipe.
i guess i'm not here to judge who's wrong and who's right, maybe what rules are slanted and in which direction.
if, as a buyer, i do anything to interfere with a seller's auction, i am eligible to be NARU'd. since there isn't much eBay can do to an anonymous buyer who contacts a known seller, it seems the seller should somehow be penalized for ending an auction early. you can be assured that it's almost always one of two things which cause a seller to end a listing early-----(a) a seller who thinks they're going to lose money. (b) a buyer who is an eBay member that makes a deal with the seller off the eBay system that gets the seller the money they want.
either way, the outcome of the auction has been interfered with.
i've sold enough on eBay to have a perspective on things. there are enough protections for the seller such as having a reserve and BIN that they can protect themselves. the trouble starts when a seller wants to be able to start low to get bidders attention and then doesn't have the sac to ride things to the end. well, of course not!!! if the bids aren't good enough, cancel. and of course when they get an offer to buy that suits them, cancel.
my solution is to hang 'em, hang 'em high when they do this. sort of the eBay version of three strikes and you're out!!
al h.
<< <i>And if you don't want to be "garage sale-ing," add a decent reserve or start the bidding at the lowest you'll accept. >>
Yeah and more often than not you get no bids and you have wasted your time AND your fees. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Personally I don't care so much about the listing fees, tho I do think their reserve policy is a screw job. Its gonna be awhile before I sell anything on eBay again.
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<< <i>And if you don't want to be "garage sale-ing," add a decent reserve or start the bidding at the lowest you'll accept. >>
Yeah and more often than not you get no bids and you have wasted your time AND your fees. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. >>
I've NEVER found that to be the case unless I was selling junk, selling stuff not in demand or had an inflated opinion of the worth my item possesses in the marketplace.
I've NEVER had an auction where I had quality stuff, accurately described and with good pictures, that didn't at least grab ONE bid at the personal minimum I was willing to sell at.
Bottom line: if you have quality stuff, stuff that the marketplace is demanding and have a *reasonable* opinion of the coin's worth, your item will sell, and even if not at what you hoped for, probably close to it.
Quality stuff. In demand. Reasonable expectations. With all three of these in place, you'll rarely if ever be disappointed. If one of these is missing, you'll be VERY disappointed more often than not.
I agree with this for the most part. There are a few other factors that play into this, such as selling in the summer time, ending auctions at weird hours, having crappy pictures, having questionable feedback, etc. But overall, over time, quality brings what it should bring.....
If I list a coin here and 2 days later put it on eBay I include a statement that the coin has been offered for prior sale and if that prior offer generates a sale I reserve the right to end the eBay listing.
I have never had the rug pulled out from under me for an eBay item I was interested in and even if I did I would not have a conniption fit over it like some here seem to.