What is the Pop 1 1960-D FS Jefferson worth?

dbldie55

I see Bowers is auctioning the Nevadaman collection of Jefferson Nickels, which includes the only PCGS FS 1960-D. It will be interesting to see what kind of attention this set brings as it appears the Jeff's are finally starting to get some attention.

Any guesses as to which set this coin ends up in?

onlyroosies

I bet the 60-D and 61-D go to the same person.

stephunter

I'm guessing around 15k. Then, within the next year a couple more get certified.

clackamas

"Then, within the next year a couple more get certified. "

Hmmm.. I don't know those are tough coins with any steps much less 5 full and the way PCGS is right now nothing seems to slip by. Many older "FS" coins are not "FS", close but not to todays standard. This is Leo's set.. is it not?

centmaster

I would guess that the 60D certified w/full steps will be the ONLY one ever certified when all is said and done. I haven't seen any other that's even close. $25-30K is my guess if there is more than one serious bidder.

Justhavingfun

I think the final price is going to be decided largely by the quality of the steps.

PCGS hasn't been as reliable on the steps as NGC or ANACS, and 5 steps from PCGS really has to be checked out. If the 5 steps are a REAL 5 steps, there will be spirited bidding on this indeed. But if the steps are illusory, and the FS rating a GFG (Gift from God), then I, for one, will be on the sidelines.

Enjoy,


Just Having Fun!

earlwbollinger

I am curious, using a good new die, about how many nickels can it strike before the steps aren't full anymore?

docday2003

Has anyone seen the coin in hand to tell us about the quality of the steps?

Nevadaman

Since this is my coin, I'll tell you what I know: Both the 60-D and 61-D received a full step designation on the first try at BOTH ANACS and PCGS. ANACS graded the 60-D MS64 5 steps and the 61-D MS66 5 steps. The steps on the 61-D are so good it could pass for a 41-D!! The steps on the 60-D aren't as sharp - but they are there and not a gift from god by any means. This is the only 60-D I have ever seen or heard of that is not weak under the third pillar. This is the typical trouble spot for the rare dates and is not a problem on this coin. There are no big nicks through the steps either. The overall strike and eye appeal are good for the date. The only negative thing I can say about the steps on the 60-D is that when they first begin on the left side, the separation could be more distinct - but this didn't bother the graders at either service, so I hope it won't bother any potential bidders! The one thing I am sure of, is that no other 1960-D has steps as good as this one and no PCGS set can be complete without this coin!

cladking

<< <i>I am curious, using a good new die, about how many nickels can it strike before the steps aren't full anymore? >>



I varies a lot by date, die pressure, alignment etc, but a good rule of thumb is that
with copper nickel coins the first eight to ten strikes will be crisp and show no erosion
of even the finest detail. The next 100 to 500 strikes will have all the design elements
still intact. After this will be the first signs of wear in the most susceptible areas. Usu-
ally this wear will show up on low details near the edge and expand inward more rapidly
than outward. Steps on a Jefferson die could be affected as early as about the 100th
strike or as late as the 50,000th depending on date etc.

Generally with Jeffersons, especially of that era, the problem was not with the die being
worn so much as the die never having recieved the detail in the first place because of
bad hubs or poor hubbing. Even perfect dies might be set in the press obliquely to the
reverse die or too far away from it so that finer detail was lost.

Nevadaman

The answer to this topic can now be given. The 1960D PCGS 64FS has set (to the best of my knowledge) a record price for a Jefferson nickel: $32,200 (including buyer's fee). Congrats to the new owner!

dbldie55

Congrats to the new owner. Wonder if this will affect the prices of 1960-D rolls?

Be interesting to see what this does for the Jefferson Market as a whole.

clackamas

Anyone know who won this coin? It is still not registered in any set.

dbldie55

Brian,

It is in the set "SAJ Jeffersons" and has been since the sale. Easy to find as it is the other 100% complete FS set.

clackamas

<< <i>Brian,

It is in the set "SAJ Jeffersons" and has been since the sale. Easy to find as it is the other 100% complete FS set. >>



Doh!

tgilliams

NICE

leothelyon

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<< <i>Brian,

It is in the set "SAJ Jeffersons" and has been since the sale. Easy to find as it is the other 100% complete FS set. >>



Doh! >>



Hi Brian
Amazingly, someone just posted a 60-D over yonder! IMHO, it's perhaps the finest coin of that date to own!

Leo

seanq

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<< <i>

<< <i>Brian,

It is in the set "SAJ Jeffersons" and has been since the sale. Easy to find as it is the other 100% complete FS set. >>



Doh! >>



Hi Brian
Amazingly, someone just posted a 60-D over yonder! IMHO, it's perhaps the finest coin of that date to own!

Leo >>



So you're saying you submitted yours and it went FS also? If so, congratulations!

You wouldn't happen to know who made the 1953-S in 65FS a couple of weeks ago, would you Leo?


Sean Reynolds