A complete U.S. type set including gold can be a lifetime project.
I've been working on mine for 25+ years, still have a ways to go.
the basic gold set in AU isn't that difficult,
it's the earlier types that can get tough, but I just solve that my moving down the grading scale, right now my no motto coronet gold, $3, and my classic head gold are EFish coins, and I don't have the small eagle anything yet, but am still young enough to hope.
Depends on how extensive you want your type set to be.
One extreme is to look at the US Type Set registry on the PCGS website. That contains virtually every type and major variety from 1792 forward. This would be very ambitious as the early mint issues from 1792 - 1794 would run several thousands of dollars for even a well-worn example.
For a more affordable US type set, Dansco has an 1800 to present type coin folder. It eliminates those earliest US mint issues from the late 1700s. This folder does have an optional "gold" page which can be added. Most of the coins in this set are very affordable, but for things like seated dollars, you're looking at a couple of hundred dollars or so.
One challenge of completing a type set is the research involved in getting to know each series so that you can make an educated purchase. Understanding strike characteristics, and the differences between a VF example and and EF example really helps make sure you don't get hosed by dealers who may overgrade their coins.
TYpe set collecting is probably the most educating type of coin collecting one can pursue. You will learn about all coins - how to differentiate a Trime Type2 from a Type3, Seated coinage w Drapery and w/o, etc.
Getting a Whitman or Dansco Book is a nice way to start. Regardless of the grade of coins you pursue, always look and add coins that are solid for the grade and coins (if raw) that could someday slab at PCGS...there's alot of junk out there and a good part of leaning Type is differentiating the "good" from the "bad".
I collect type and have mitigated much of the expense and focused on inexpensive coins.....there's nothing wrong with adding lower grade coins where cost dictates....always room to upgrade as time and $ allows.
Get an eduction - collect type!
Craig If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
The best type set in my opinion would be a Dansco one......i've been working on mine for about 4 months now and i'm about 65% done....I'd say the best example of a type set would be Baley's...It can be seen here Baley
Hmmm, my Dansco 7070 didn't come with a Gold page. It must of known I was a collector on a budget. I really enjoyed looking at Baley's type set. I wonder - any of you ever crack slabs to fill your holes?
We'll, I'll be! So they FINALLY made a Basic Type Set Registry! Awesome. I was one of the top proponents of that idea. I notice the #1 supporter of the idea happens to be #1 on that set.
<< <i>Are Dancos good on protection? >>
They are OK. I would avoid putting proof coins in them, or really nice red copper. Otherwise, they are pretty good if you are careful with the slides.
Type collecting blows date-and-mint collecting out of the water, in my humble opinion. A type set is much more interesting and visually appealing than a group of coins which all look the same.
Coinguy89, check out ebay....you can find them cheaper. I recently purchsed on ebay a used Whitman 1/2 cent - 25 cent type album (holds 66 coins so its pretty complete) for $4.54 including shipping.....(pretty good deal).....and Whitman also has a 2nd Type book, 50C-$1 that holds another 24 coins PLUS Whitman also has a Gold TYpe album (there's one on ebay that ends today that's at about $5 with shipping). With a bit of shopping, you could probably buy all 3 Whitman's for $20. Cheap and quite complete in terms of # of coins contained in each.
PS: There are also a bunch of Dansco's on ebay........look under the coin supplies category (also subcategory coin albums) or search for "Dansco" or "Whitman" or "Type" etc..
Craig If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
<< <i>Coinguy89, check out ebay....you can find them cheaper. I recently purchsed on ebay a used Whitman 1/2 cent - 25 cent type album (holds 66 coins so its pretty complete) for $4.54 including shipping.....(pretty good deal).....and Whitman also has a 2nd Type book, 50C-$1 that holds another 24 coins PLUS Whitman also has a Gold TYpe album (there's one on ebay that ends today that's at about $5 with shipping). With a bit of shopping, you could probably buy all 3 Whitman's for $20. Cheap and quite complete in terms of # of coins contained in each.
PS: There are also a bunch of Dansco's on ebay........look under the coin supplies category (also subcategory coin albums) or search for "Dansco" or "Whitman" or "Type" etc.. >>
Not allowed to buy on Ebay, I gotta rely on shows.
Scott Hopkins -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
Types are indeed a great way to collect coins but I disagree that it's a good one to start with. A collector need to much of a broadbaised knowledge of grading multiple series to just jump in. If you decide to start a type set I recomend starting with a 20th century type set. Most of these coins are coins you see everyday and will be easier to get through the grading learning curve, JMHO.
My first set was a 20th century Capital holder. The mega-20th century board. I built the setin MS60+ first year issue. I had a lot of fun with it and it was a challenge finding the coins, but it certainly wasn't impossible. For the Type 1 SLQ, I did go with a 1917, not the 1916.
I am now working on a Dansco book in MS60+ to compete with Bailey. I am almost done and it's been a fun challenge. I did fill it with circulated coins and I upgraded as I went along.
This is definitely a great place to learn and get your feet wet. I would start with VF-XF coins to learn the series then upgrade later if you want to.
I did fill it with circulated coins and I upgraded as I went along.
oh, absolutely, I did that too, and one by one, upgraded the weakest pieces as I went along.
In fact, still working on it; replaced 3 of the coins since the most recent pics were taken, and have a couple more that I want to upgrade. A set like this is a project that might never end..
<< <i>I did fill it with circulated coins and I upgraded as I went along.
oh, absolutely, I did that too, and one by one, upgraded the weakest pieces as I went along.
In fact, still working on it; replaced 3 of the coins since the most recent pics were taken, and have a couple more that I want to upgrade. A set like this is a project that might never end.. >>
Is it safe to keep putting coins in and out of albums? Oh yeah, I got my type set album, should be in this weekend.
Scott Hopkins -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
I got my type set album, should be in this weekend
congrats!
Is it safe to keep putting coins in and out of albums?
Yes, it's safe enough to add and replace coins every once in a while, but you should minimize sliding the slides and not "keep putting coins in and out" unneccessarily. The slides themselves will stay clearer that way, and you will minimize risk to the coins (yes, sliding the slides repeatedly over the coins will damage the coins, and the more you handle the slides, the more hazy they'll get with tiny scratches). Put your coins in the album after you get them and are finished handling them, and leave them in the album. Only slide the slides when necessary, and be slow and careful when you do it. Pay special attention when installing thicker coins, they will be closer to the slides.
To install a coin, you need a couple of clean pieces of paper. wash and dry your hands first. then carefully push on the plastic over any coins that are in that slide row, to push them down into their holes, away from the slide you're about to slide. Then slowly and carefully slide the slide out and set it aside. If removing a coin, repeat the process with the other side, to move the coin away from that slide. then carefully push the coin out with one piece of paper and let it land on another. Then put the back slide back in, carefuly center and push your coin into the hole (using the clean piece of paper, again) all the way down, check that the other coins are pushed down, and go ahead and slide your slide.
sounds like a lot of work but its not that bad and it's worth it.
<< <i>I got my type set album, should be in this weekend
congrats!
Is it safe to keep putting coins in and out of albums?
Yes, it's safe enough to add and replace coins every once in a while, but you should minimize sliding the slides and not "keep putting coins in and out" unneccessarily. The slides themselves will stay clearer that way, and you will minimize risk to the coins (yes, sliding the slides repeatedly over the coins will damage the coins, and the more you handle the slides, the more hazy they'll get with tiny scratches). Put your coins in the album after you get them and are finished handling them, and leave them in the album. Only slide the slides when necessary, and be slow and careful when you do it. Pay special attention when installing thicker coins, they will be closer to the slides.
To install a coin, you need a couple of clean pieces of paper. wash and dry your hands first. then carefully push on the plastic over any coins that are in that slide row, to push them down into their holes, away from the slide you're about to slide. Then slowly and carefully slide the slide out and set it aside. If removing a coin, repeat the process with the other side, to move the coin away from that slide. then carefully push the coin out with one piece of paper and let it land on another. Then put the back slide back in, carefuly center and push your coin into the hole (using the clean piece of paper, again) all the way down, check that the other coins are pushed down, and go ahead and slide your slide.
sounds like a lot of work but its not that bad and it's worth it. >>
Yeah that does sound like alot of work, but i'll make it happen. Thanks for the tips.
Scott Hopkins -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
Are the more lustorus early coins replicas to just fill the spaces? Im hoping to not have to do this, I don't wanna be spending thousands on one coin just yet.
Scott Hopkins -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
<< <i>here's a 20th century type set: most collectors start there in unc and high grade circs, then move back through the earlier types such as seated and bust. >>
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most collectors start there in unc and high grade circs, then move back through the earlier types such as seated and bust.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>A complete U.S. type set including gold can be a lifetime project. >>
Even WITHOUT gold it's a lifetime project.
Until I had the means to get a Draped Bust, Small Eagle half dollar (1796-97), there's no need to even be concerned with adding gold for completeness.
Here
is the pcgs registry list for a type set up to 1964.
I've been working on mine for 25+ years, still have a ways to go.
the basic gold set in AU isn't that difficult,
it's the earlier types that can get tough, but I just solve that my moving down the grading scale, right now my no motto coronet gold, $3, and my classic head gold are EFish coins, and I don't have the small eagle anything yet, but am still young enough to hope.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
U.S. Nickels Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
U.S. Dimes Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
One extreme is to look at the US Type Set registry on the PCGS website. That contains virtually every type and major variety from 1792 forward. This would be very ambitious as the early mint issues from 1792 - 1794 would run several thousands of dollars for even a well-worn example.
For a more affordable US type set, Dansco has an 1800 to present type coin folder. It eliminates those earliest US mint issues from the late 1700s. This folder does have an optional "gold" page which can be added. Most of the coins in this set are very affordable, but for things like seated dollars, you're looking at a couple of hundred dollars or so.
One challenge of completing a type set is the research involved in getting to know each series so that you can make an educated purchase. Understanding strike characteristics, and the differences between a VF example and and EF example really helps make sure you don't get hosed by dealers who may overgrade their coins.
Good luck!
Getting a Whitman or Dansco Book is a nice way to start. Regardless of the grade of coins you pursue, always look and add coins that are solid for the grade and coins (if raw) that could someday slab at PCGS...there's alot of junk out there and a good part of leaning Type is differentiating the "good" from the "bad".
I collect type and have mitigated much of the expense and focused on inexpensive coins.....there's nothing wrong with adding lower grade coins where cost dictates....always room to upgrade as time and $ allows.
Get an eduction - collect type!
If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
My Odds&Ends eBay Stuff to fuel my coin habit (No Coins)
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
<< <i>You can work on one of these Basic U.S. Coin Design Set, No Gold. A total of 39 coins including the three cent silver coins. >>
We'll, I'll be! So they FINALLY made a Basic Type Set Registry! Awesome. I was one of the top proponents of that idea. I notice the #1 supporter of the idea happens to be #1 on that set.
<< <i>Are Dancos good on protection? >>
They are OK. I would avoid putting proof coins in them, or really nice red copper. Otherwise, they are pretty good if you are careful with the slides.
Type collecting blows date-and-mint collecting out of the water, in my humble opinion. A type set is much more interesting and visually appealing than a group of coins which all look the same.
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
oh yes, at least 20 of the coins in my dansco used to be certified
the album costs about $24.50, the extra gold page is $5.50.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>$24.50, the extra gold page is $5.50. >>
Thats cheaper than I thought.
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
PS: There are also a bunch of Dansco's on ebay........look under the coin supplies category (also subcategory coin albums) or search for "Dansco" or "Whitman" or "Type" etc..
If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
<< <i>well, that is without the coins
Don't worry, i know that, I wanna spend a lot on the coins.
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
<< <i>Coinguy89, check out ebay....you can find them cheaper. I recently purchsed on ebay a used Whitman 1/2 cent - 25 cent type album (holds 66 coins so its pretty complete) for $4.54 including shipping.....(pretty good deal).....and Whitman also has a 2nd Type book, 50C-$1 that holds another 24 coins PLUS Whitman also has a Gold TYpe album (there's one on ebay that ends today that's at about $5 with shipping). With a bit of shopping, you could probably buy all 3 Whitman's for $20. Cheap and quite complete in terms of # of coins contained in each.
PS: There are also a bunch of Dansco's on ebay........look under the coin supplies category (also subcategory coin albums) or search for "Dansco" or "Whitman" or "Type" etc.. >>
Not allowed to buy on Ebay, I gotta rely on shows.
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
Chris
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
I am now working on a Dansco book in MS60+ to compete with Bailey. I am almost done and it's been a fun challenge. I did fill it with circulated coins and I upgraded as I went along.
This is definitely a great place to learn and get your feet wet. I would start with VF-XF coins to learn the series then upgrade later if you want to.
oh, absolutely, I did that too, and one by one, upgraded the weakest pieces as I went along.
In fact, still working on it; replaced 3 of the coins since the most recent pics were taken,
and have a couple more that I want to upgrade. A set like this is a project that might never end..
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>I did fill it with circulated coins and I upgraded as I went along.
oh, absolutely, I did that too, and one by one, upgraded the weakest pieces as I went along.
In fact, still working on it; replaced 3 of the coins since the most recent pics were taken,
and have a couple more that I want to upgrade. A set like this is a project that might never end..
Is it safe to keep putting coins in and out of albums? Oh yeah, I got my type set album, should be in this weekend.
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
congrats!
Is it safe to keep putting coins in and out of albums?
Yes, it's safe enough to add and replace coins every once in a while, but you should minimize sliding the slides and not "keep putting coins in and out" unneccessarily. The slides themselves will stay clearer that way, and you will minimize risk to the coins (yes, sliding the slides repeatedly over the coins will damage the coins, and the more you handle the slides, the more hazy they'll get with tiny scratches). Put your coins in the album after you get them and are finished handling them, and leave them in the album. Only slide the slides when necessary, and be slow and careful when you do it. Pay special attention when installing thicker coins, they will be closer to the slides.
To install a coin, you need a couple of clean pieces of paper. wash and dry your hands first. then carefully push on the plastic over any coins that are in that slide row, to push them down into their holes, away from the slide you're about to slide. Then slowly and carefully slide the slide out and set it aside. If removing a coin, repeat the process with the other side, to move the coin away from that slide. then carefully push the coin out with one piece of paper and let it land on another. Then put the back slide back in, carefuly center and push your coin into the hole (using the clean piece of paper, again) all the way down, check that the other coins are pushed down, and go ahead and slide your slide.
sounds like a lot of work but its not that bad and it's worth it.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>I got my type set album, should be in this weekend
congrats!
Is it safe to keep putting coins in and out of albums?
Yes, it's safe enough to add and replace coins every once in a while, but you should minimize sliding the slides and not "keep putting coins in and out" unneccessarily. The slides themselves will stay clearer that way, and you will minimize risk to the coins (yes, sliding the slides repeatedly over the coins will damage the coins, and the more you handle the slides, the more hazy they'll get with tiny scratches). Put your coins in the album after you get them and are finished handling them, and leave them in the album. Only slide the slides when necessary, and be slow and careful when you do it. Pay special attention when installing thicker coins, they will be closer to the slides.
To install a coin, you need a couple of clean pieces of paper. wash and dry your hands first. then carefully push on the plastic over any coins that are in that slide row, to push them down into their holes, away from the slide you're about to slide. Then slowly and carefully slide the slide out and set it aside. If removing a coin, repeat the process with the other side, to move the coin away from that slide. then carefully push the coin out with one piece of paper and let it land on another. Then put the back slide back in, carefuly center and push your coin into the hole (using the clean piece of paper, again) all the way down, check that the other coins are pushed down, and go ahead and slide your slide.
sounds like a lot of work but its not that bad and it's worth it. >>
Yeah that does sound like alot of work, but i'll make it happen.
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
The Whitman is also a good album, I use one for my #2 set
I like the whitman because it includes the earlier types
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
edit: I'm gonna get a real small eagle half someday! and poke it into that space!
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.
My Ebay!
<< <i>here's a 20th century type set:
that's my first type set holder!!!!! COOL!!!!!