Is this real, forged or "auto pen"?

BigKidAtHeart

this signature on a 1983 donruss card would have been signed between 83 and his death in 93.
but since this would have been well after his accident, it seems way to nice a sig for him to have done it himself.
Could it be an Autopen? or his wife's/assistances/clubhouse kind of thing?

thoughts?

BigKidAtHeart

here is an example of a post accident signature
(now I know it is on a ball, but supposedly they
Unstiched this one so he could sign the panel flat)


This is what I expect the card above to look like.

mikeschmidt

BKAH:

I've seen some post-accident signatures that look like the one on that card - but two things I notice:

A) The signature is usually larger (though not as sloppy as on the baseball...)
I can't recall *ever* seeing a post-accident inscription, though it definitely may have happened.

fsjeter

2 things that jump out at me:

1: Post accident Campy sigs tend to be very shakey and are usually just his name (few personalized sigs). Balls had to be unstiched so he could sign them during the period this would have been signed.

2: Most people will shorten there sig to get it all in the space provided, this one keeps going right off the card with no deviation.

IMHO my spidey sense is tingling but I am, by no means, an autograph expert.

Scott

Stone193

BKAH
This exemplar is taken right off the PSA/DNA site.


Mike

edit: spelling

mikeschmidt

Stone - that is a pre-accident signature, though.

The post-accident signatures really were never that valuable, I guess. I mean $100 - $200 is a value - but not widely collected from what I saw around the hobby.

Cubfan

As the end of the name runs off of the card, it looks like a stamp to me. If you were writing that with a pen, there would probably be marks or dents in on the edge where the pen came off of the card and then back on in those last few letters. And, people usually just dont keep writing when they run out of room.

Just my two cents.



Keith

boggs301012

I would say it is a stamp aswell the middle of the autograph is lighter then the ends. A stamp usualy is rolled right to left thus the ends are darker. And the person who applied the stamp mis judged the centering not by much.


James

BigKidAtHeart

I did not even think about it being a stamp!
That seems the best bet as to what this is.

Thanks guys.


And if what MikeSchmidt is true,
(post-accident signatures really were never that valuable, I guess. I mean $100 - $200 is a value )
and anyone out there is selling one
Please let me know!!!

Stone193

<< <i>Stone - that is a pre-accident signature, though >>


Mike
That was my understanding also. I'm at work and didn't get a chance to write any more than the exemplar.
I agree with you guys - since the sig. looks like the exemplar, it is either a stamp or an autopen of his pre-accident autograph. Thanx for the input Mike.
Mike

BigKidAtHeart

(edited - sorry double post)