Copper fraud on Ebay In my opinion

Coin Finder · July 11, 2004 1:22PM

Ebay auction #3920506810

I think Copy has been dug out of the back.

Again just an opinion.

Tbig

Goober · July 11, 2004 1:31PM

Considering his/her other auctions I'd be wary, especially to see something that nice unslabbed and in the flesh.

XpipedreamR · July 11, 2004 1:36PM

Phoney-baloney.

Yes, copy has been scratched out. And isn't it just a little too round?

Rob790 · July 11, 2004 1:41PM

I hope those bids are as real as that "coin". $10k !!!??

Fake cent at $10k

Sandhawk · July 11, 2004 1:56PM

How do you report this to Ebay?? Someone is gonna get the SHAFT!! Check out his feedback

braddick · July 11, 2004 1:59PM

Guy- Not to worry. One of our own is "on the case". This one will NOT be sold to the unsuspecting.

In fact, I believe the Seller is in for a rude awakening.

lordmarcovan · July 11, 2004 2:23PM

Probably all shill bids, anyway.

But this "rude awakening" braddick just mentioned sounds interesting...

lordmarcovan · July 11, 2004 2:30PM

Hmm. Weird. None of the links to the guy's feedback are showing, despite the fact that he does not appear to have a private feedback rating. (He just makes his auctions private to "protect the customers' identities". Uh-huh.)

lava · July 11, 2004 3:06PM

"It's a nice authentic old and rare coin." What "it?" Sure a REAL coin is old and rare, but the crap in that auction is not. That is terrible, and criminal.

krazyace5 · July 11, 2004 4:00PM

Wow, and a no return policy for something that expensive!

lordmarcovan · July 11, 2004 4:11PM

Anybody who would bid on that deserves what they'll get, in my opinion. But it would still be nice to see this dirtbag seller go down in flames. If that happens, y'all bring the hotdogs and marshmallows and I'll bring the skewers!

UncleWiggly · July 11, 2004 4:50PM

And the bidders IDs are kept private so no one can contact them or they can't contact each other. I won't bid in auctions anymore where the bidders IDs are kept private.

Jerry

Conder101 · July 11, 2004 6:19PM

This auction was discussed a few days ago. At that time I warned the seller that it was a Royal Oak Mint reproduction. After two days I received no reply and the auction was not changed or pulled so I then notified ebay through their ebay/ana coin sellers report link. I included an explaination of what the piece was, a link to an image of an unaltered piece on Royal Oak Mints website, and my qualifications for making the identifications. That was this aternoon. We'll see if anything happens.

kranky · July 11, 2004 8:26PM

Seller has a neg from a week ago... same deal.

Feedback: 1942/1-P Mercury Dime-word COPY made unreadable & sold as Authentic- BEWARE
Reply by seller: Coin is authentic. They're lying. What more can I say?

And from the day previous to the feedback above:

Feedback: I was told via email authentic...IT'S NOT!- IT'S FAKE! I'M OUT $100+!! AVOID!!!!
Reply by seller: Coin is authentic. Showed buyers remorse before even receiving coin.

I guess we can look forward to many more of these if ebay allows it to go on.

SamThompson · July 11, 2004 8:38PM

couldn't this guy just come back with another name if that one gets removed? it all seems too easy for them (the scammers)

100proof1957 · July 11, 2004 10:04PM

This appears to me to be a secondary account for this bozo,member since 12/04/02
all of his feedback has been since FEB 2004,umm 14 months and no action then BAM
danger Will Robinson !

windwhispersintrees · July 11, 2004 10:21PM

A+++ Ebayer. Another con man and dope united in super ripoff.

razorface1027 · July 11, 2004 10:32PM

He/she's got a 97.8% feedback rating; therefore, they've got to be telling the truth.

coinguy1 · July 11, 2004 10:38PM

I sincerely hope the high bidder isn't really a dope - he just posted to this thread. : )

Gonfunko · July 11, 2004 10:39PM

That member likes to violate eBay rules a LOT! Check out these auctions:
Auction #1
Auction #2
Auction #3
He claims they don't violate eBay policy, but they look to be on awful shaky ground IMO.

coinguy1 · July 12, 2004 12:11AM

Update - the generous seller just ended the listing early in order to sell to the current high bidder. The bidder has already thanked him with appropriate feedback.

KlectorKid · July 12, 2004 12:13AM

<< <i>Seller has KNOWINGLY sold yet another COPY as real - beware of this liar! >>

kranky · July 12, 2004 12:18AM

Thank goodness for knowledgable high bidders! I wonder how quickly the seller went from being elated to "D'oh!"

I suspect we'll be seeing an encore performance of this "coin" real soon on ebay.

XpipedreamR · July 12, 2004 12:20AM

The pig selling this crap shoud be castrated.

Is that too harsh?

ziggy29 · July 12, 2004 12:24AM

Looks like the seller just changed their name. Too bad their feedback history with the "fake" comments are still with them.

And I love the new feedback -- looks like someone got them to end the auction early with the express intent of immediately slamming them with a negative that the coin's a fake. And, of course, the obligatory retaliatory negative given 14 minutes later.

JadeRareCoin · July 12, 2004 12:32AM

Ya gotta love "therealcoinguy1". Nice job, whomever that masked-man is......

4thStooge · July 12, 2004 12:33AM

I hope than when the winner is contacted by eBay that he 'mistakenly' tells eBay that he paid for and received the item and that the seller fees should not be refunded.

By accident, of course.

kranky · July 12, 2004 12:39AM

Let's look at some of the classic rarities this seller has sold on ebay recently. I do not know if any of the buyers ended up out any money.

Reverse of 1942/1 Merc. "The coin does have some damage on the reverse." Sold for $345.

Reverse of 1877 Indian Head cent. "probably grades at almost uncirculated condition" Sold for $1276.50

Reverse of 1916-D Merc. "probably grades at almost uncirculated condition" Sold for $3050.

Man, this guy has horrible luck. All those nice coins, all of which have odd mutilations in one area of the reverses!

krazyace5 · July 12, 2004 12:54AM

Wow, didnt realize you can buy positive feedback!

DominusDeus · July 12, 2004 12:59AM

Gotta love his reply...

"Reply by coinsandstuff2: Coin is authentic.They left this the instant the auction ended.Bid to harass"

God, what a tard.

100proof1957 · July 12, 2004 1:05AM

isnt this type of thing,oh in about 50 states a felony ?
how bout the secret service ?

DominusDeus · July 12, 2004 1:06AM

reply to him with a TinyURL that links to the galery mint site that shows the cent with "COPY" on it, and mention it's the same thing with "COPY" scratched off.

coinguy1 · July 12, 2004 1:18AM

I would very much appreciate it if some of you folks would also report this seller (with a history of selling copies as real coins) to Ebay- the more, the better. Maybe Ebay will do something about him.

ss350camaro · July 12, 2004 1:35AM

Click here to report to eBay.

Scroll to the bottom and click the " Report listing violations or problems with another eBay member" link.

Enter the item number........

ziggy29 · July 12, 2004 1:37AM

<< <i>I would very much appreciate it if some of you folks would also report this seller (with a history of selling copies as real coins) to Ebay- the more, the better. Maybe Ebay will do something about him. >>

Done. It's the least we can do for someone taking a neg to bust up a scam.

mgoodm3 · July 12, 2004 1:42AM

Done. Listing # is 3920506810

UncleJoe · July 12, 2004 1:49AM

I don't know who to believe -

therealcoinguy1 with a 97.8% positive feedback or coinsandstuff2 with a 97.1% positive feedback.

BTW how does one become a Power Screwer with only 128 feedback rating?

Joe.

Bikingnut · July 12, 2004 1:53AM

Just finished reporting him and I included the auction numbers for the other fake coins as well.

ss350camaro · July 12, 2004 1:54AM

<< <i>BTW how does one become a Power Screwer with only 128 feedback rating? >>

The "Power Seller" status is given out to those who maintain a certain amount of sales volume (dollars) over a 3 month period of time. It has nothing to do with the amount of feedback.

ziggy29 · July 12, 2004 1:54AM

I have a question; it's probably in the eBay TOS somewhere, but I'm feeling lazy.

Is it against the rules to include the item number in the feedback? That way, if the seller tries to hide it, people could search on the item number and find it and see for themselves what a scammer this is.

DominusDeus · July 12, 2004 1:55AM

Reported... ^_^

comoncents · July 12, 2004 1:59AM

I reported it also. The seller shouldn't just get banned from Ebay, he should get banned from society (jail).

coinguy1 · July 12, 2004 2:02AM

Thanks guys!

Bikingnut · July 12, 2004 2:11PM

Update, although he hasn't been booted yet, all his other auctions are gone.

Neptune · July 13, 2004 12:53AM

I agree that he should be reported to the real authorities. Getting kicked (even tho last I read here he wasn't yet) is NOT punishment enough. I am not God, but aren't there laws? I hope the ANA folks are on top of this, and can get this guy prosecuted if the coin is indeed a fake. Have they been contacted?

Copper fraud on Ebay In my opinion

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