Morgan grading test: VF35 or XF40? (Grades revealed in 1st post!)
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Can you tell which (if any) of these coins have been graded VF35 by PCGS and which (if any) have been graded XF40?
All three have noticeable lustre; #3 the most and #2 the least.
#1 may have had a very quick dip to remove some of the toning.
#2 may have had an acetone bath to remove some of the grime.
#3 looks as original as can be.
Actual grades will be revealed Sunday night.
Coin #1:
Coin #2:
Coin #3:
Thanks to everyone who took part in this little grading exercise. There were 19 of you who offered grade opinions.
-- For coin #1, 10 people guessed VF and 9 guessed XF.
-- For coin #2, 15 people guessed VF and 4 guessed XF.
-- For coin #3, 11 people guessed VF and 8 guessed XF.
Three people got all three coins right -- K6AZ, ER, and COINBUF. Each coin is graded VF35 by PCGS. I bought them all raw and sent them in for grading myself.
Coin #1 was sold to me by a very good dealer friend whose grading ability is top-notch in my book. He sold it as an XF40. When I received it in the mail I instantly knew it was only VF35 at PCGS because of the wear inside the wings and around the eagle's neck.
Coin #2 was bought as a VF+. I thought it was VF35, with a serious chance of being downgraded to VF30 due to the big marks on the cheek and the long mark on the right wing.
Coin #3 was sold as a VF/XF. It has all the lustre and eye appeal of an XF40, but the merging of feathers inside the left wing told me it would only make VF35. I've regraded it once, but without success.
Thanks to all of you who shared their grade opinions and comments on this; I hope it was an enjoyable experience.
All three have noticeable lustre; #3 the most and #2 the least.
#1 may have had a very quick dip to remove some of the toning.
#2 may have had an acetone bath to remove some of the grime.
#3 looks as original as can be.
Actual grades will be revealed Sunday night.
Coin #1:
Coin #2:
Coin #3:
Thanks to everyone who took part in this little grading exercise. There were 19 of you who offered grade opinions.
-- For coin #1, 10 people guessed VF and 9 guessed XF.
-- For coin #2, 15 people guessed VF and 4 guessed XF.
-- For coin #3, 11 people guessed VF and 8 guessed XF.
Three people got all three coins right -- K6AZ, ER, and COINBUF. Each coin is graded VF35 by PCGS. I bought them all raw and sent them in for grading myself.
Coin #1 was sold to me by a very good dealer friend whose grading ability is top-notch in my book. He sold it as an XF40. When I received it in the mail I instantly knew it was only VF35 at PCGS because of the wear inside the wings and around the eagle's neck.
Coin #2 was bought as a VF+. I thought it was VF35, with a serious chance of being downgraded to VF30 due to the big marks on the cheek and the long mark on the right wing.
Coin #3 was sold as a VF/XF. It has all the lustre and eye appeal of an XF40, but the merging of feathers inside the left wing told me it would only make VF35. I've regraded it once, but without success.
Thanks to all of you who shared their grade opinions and comments on this; I hope it was an enjoyable experience.
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#2 & 3-35.
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So, my final answer is:
1. VF-35
2. VF-35
3. XF-40
40
40
40
looks ripe for an anacs AU50 and an easy $500.
edit: All three have noticeable lustre
#2 is VF
#3 is a liner, but since it "looks as original as can be", VF is far more likely.
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Eric, without question all three coin blow away the anacs coin in the "respect for anacs thread."
with noticeable lustre #3 is EF in my book.......
#2 is the big question mark......Especially with the gouge on the cheek & wing....I could see her VF+++ at pcgs but certainly EF details. without the gashes, an easy EF.
#2=35
#3=40
is that 88-O a 'Hot Lips?"
1=40
#2=35
#3=40
2=35
3=35
Joe.
vf25/vf30
vf35
The 1895-S is a VAM 3 S/S
The 1901-P is a VAM 3 "Shifted Eagle"
#1 Vf-35
#2 xf-40
#3 vf-35
Given the bump for the 95-s, even though it doeant look it?
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#2 VF
#3 VF
I hope the rest of you are having as much fun with this as I am.
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So should I put you down for 35-35-35?
What do you do to get your photos so large? I'm scanning at 72 dpi, but the ones I posted are as big as I can fit in 50K file size.
Thanks.
The 1895-s is probably VF30, perhaps a 35 on a good day, and very tough to find in this grade...nice coin. Hold onto it because most collectors just do not appreciate how tough this coin is to find... and because it is the S/S VAM, that even makes it all the better.
The 1901 shifted eagle is also not original. The 1901 Morgan is known for weakness, bad strikes and finding an attractive one is a challenge. This shifted eagle, in my view, is between a 35 and 40. If it were original, I would give it the 40.
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I hope to see more of these challenges. I thought it was fun.
Well now I know I overgrade Morgans by five points...
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I think the folks who did better are probly those who have or have had a coin of similar grade.
I concede to your knowledge within this series.
You have the EYE
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