ACG Amended Complaint and Article, Acrobat Files

Sequitur

Download motion seeking leave to amend and proposed amended complaint here (right click, save as - 608 KB pdf file). It appears ACG seeks to drop 26 defendants and include 3 new defendants.

If your name appears in either the original or the proposed amended complaint, please do not comment publicly about the lawsuit. Even if your name no longer appears in the proposed amended complaint, do not publicly comment -- you still may be a defendant in the case, and the original complaint is still the operative pleading document, until the court grants leave to amend. Make no assumptions about your status in the case; consult your counsel.

Download article re Alan C. Hager here (right click, save as - 1.2 MB pdf file). First sentence of article: "Atlas shrugged, and so did I, from the weight of the manure between the covers of Alan Hager's book, Hager's Comprehensive Price Guide To Rare Baseball Cards, 1886 to Present."


The plaintiffs remain:

ASA Accugrade, Inc., a Florida corporation
Alan Hager
Diane Hager


ACG's lawyers remain:

Bogin, Munns & Munns
Daniel M. Brodersen
2601 Technology Drive
Orlando, FL 32804

Bochiman

What a load of crap they are doing.....
I wonder (outloud) if those that were named, and being dropped, can countersue for the expenses they had due to the first lawsuit?

I am not a lawyer, I am not named, but I am just wondering..........

dbldie55

I notice one name for sure missing. I talked to him in Portland before he even knew it was coming.

Having the ANA named could be interesting. It sounds like they are listed for printing articles by their members (as well as the fund).

This complaint has some specifics, should be interesting. I have a question for the lawyers.

They are claiming that this group of defendants caused them to lose business. Do they have to prove that it was for this reason that the dealers mentioned quit sending them submissions? (maybe I am missing the point, but that is how I read it)

lava

I am willing to provide expert testimony for the defense if anyone is interested.

greghansen

Sequitar's comments and advice are all good...but a few thoughts before I have to run off this morning.

This IS a very positive development for those people who were initially listed as a defendant in the 1st law suit...but who are not named in the Amended Complain. For that group of people, they are literally a 'pen stroke' away from being dropped as defendants. These types of motions are granted by Florida courts very liberally. IMO, there is in excess of a 95% chance that the Plaintiff's Motion to Amend will be granted and once granted, the Amended Complaint will become the operative pleading and only those named in the Amended Complaint will remain as defendants.

The hearings on this type of Motion in Florida are very informal. No evidence is typically required. Many times, it is even handled by a telephone hearing. More commonly, all interested attorneys appear at a hearing before the presiding Judge and present argument as to why the Motion should or should not be granted. When the case is in its early stages (as this one is) and when it has not yet been set for trial (as this one hasn't) Motions to Amend the Complaint which streamline the litigation, are highly favored by the Court and are granted nearly universally. Sequitar's post does not indicate whether the Plaintiff's have obtained a hearing time to bring this matter before the court. For those people who are no longer named in the amended complaint, the next most important information you will want to obtain, is the date and time for the Courts hearing on this Motion. Hopefully it will be within the next few weeks.

As to those defendants who are still individually named, this Motion will not change their legal status, but as to defendants no longer named, I think it is important to observe that the filing of this Motion makes it a 95% plus probability IMO that they will be dropped from the suit in the near future. Again, Sequitar's remarks are ALL good about taking nothing for granted, consulting counsel, etc, but these are my observations and opinions. I hope this Motion is Granted and some finality is given to those previously named defendants who are no longer listed in the Amended Complaint.

ksteelheader

I remember a thread where Bochiman told people to "shut up" because they were talking about the lawsuit. Now, here he is commenting....?????

Sequitur

First and last bump for the morning crew.

These types of motions are granted by Florida courts very liberally.

Yes, leave will be granted. A mere formality, and I doubt the judge will even need a hearing, simply rule on the papers.

razorface1027

All of this BS just beacause they're a sloppy grading company and refuse to attest to it. Very, very SAD!

mrearlygold

<< <i>All of this BS just beacause they're a sloppy grading company and refuse to attest to it. Very, very SAD! >>




It's going to damage the defendants considerably in having to defend.

That's no B/S.

Tom

Proof69Eagles

Isn't this a free country, and we have the right to free speech??????? Looks like that is all this case is based on. What people have said. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Doesn't make you a criminal.

razorface1027

It's going to damage the defendants considerably in having to defend.[/]

On that note, I couldn't agree with you more. The whole thing's BS.

poorguy

That was some funny reading.

Download that artice Sequitur has a link to. Here is my favorite exerpt:

Alan Hager uses a process I call "Fartrillionization." It comes fromthe root word "frartrillion," (an adjective). The VCBC Lexicon defines "fartrillion" thusly: "Any number pulled out of Alan Hager's ass, normally used in conjunction with any of Alan Hager's written statements, almost always in attempt to impress or deceive. Considered by many to be a Freudian overcompensation of shortcomings in other areas, cardboard or otherwise."


Man, that is really some bashing. Smackdown! <insert b*tch slap icon here>

Bochiman

<< <i>I remember a thread where Bochiman told people to "shut up" because they were talking about the lawsuit. Now, here he is commenting....????? >>



Hey Ken.....learn to grow up (and shut up while you are at it ) and actually read context and talk in context.

Your posts are pretty senile or juvenile....take your pick.

You have a problem with me.....take it up with me......your constant stalking of threads where I post is pretty sad...I guess the life you have is pretty boring?

There are different levels of talking about the case and what is said....and to ask/opine (ken...that basically means "to wonder" if you need help understanding simple things, which it appears you do) about a case; in many cases....with things that would help the plantiff (ken....that means ACG/the hagars.....if that helps, I know you need the help...your posts show it)

So, if you actually read the context and the words I post on this, it is not saying anything that the hagars can use against others....actually vice-versa.

Now, from the context of your posts, and your comments, it makes me wonder if you are actually rooting for the hagars?
If not, then I don't understand why you post about my posts like you do unless you are just looking to be an irritant or act like a child trying to attack someone else who you don't like, no matter the situation????

Anyway, whatever it is......I hope you take your medication and learn to come out and play nicely with everyone. If you don't like me, feel free to ignore me.
I actually feel sorry for you now after watching your last few posts as it appears that, in the coin forum, your only posts (that I have seen...since I don't stalk you or your posting) have been to try to denigrate (look it up ken...it's a word ) me or to post your little "thumbs up" "way to go" or other things that don't mean much, but are fun and up the post count.

For being as helpful as I have heard you are, ken, it appears you get off on trying to personally attack me...and if that floats your boat and keeps an old man like you happy and kicking, then go for it As long as I know, which it appears I do now, that you have a personal vendetta against me, I have no problems with it.....I am above it and more mature than that (and, I really do hate being mature...it really isn't fun)...heh

Sorry if this post is too long.....I don't just come in a snipe an insult like ken does....I actually try to understand all the things around and their impacts.


Also, on this thread, Greg...thank you for further explaining the process. I really hope that those named come out victorious against the hagars, and that no damage was done to them by postings on this board by certain peoples....and that they are somehow able to recover their outlay of costs for lawyers fees as I believe that those are not small pennies. I have contributed some and would be likely to contribute again soon .... when things clear up a little here.
I know that ken has probably already contributed to help out too, right? He is probably willing to contribute some more as well