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POLL: Is this rainbow proof Buffalo artificially toned or naturally toned?

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  • uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    Cleaned and retoned nicely but would BB at the majors...Doug
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  • Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    I have no idea......but it sure is easy on the eyes.


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  • GooberGoober Posts: 980 ✭✭✭
    Exactly, so if you're interested in getting rid of it, I'll give you a couple of bucks plus shipping. image
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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    I voted real, but what the hell do I know?



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  • coinfreak499coinfreak499 Posts: 1,720
    I go buy the assumption that if it is questionable dont buy it


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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lets see what happens...imageimage

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  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭
    I'm smart enough -- but I really don't want to keep it to myself!!!!!

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    Hey Russ -- good timing too -- Tuesday night!

    Michael
  • puffpuff Posts: 1,475
    Sell it to me Russ and I will let you know how it comes out when PCGS grades it.image

    Seriously from the photos I think it would grade at any of the top 3 TPG's.
  • FrattLawFrattLaw Posts: 3,290 ✭✭


    << <i>I will let you know how it comes out when PCGS grades it. >>



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    Michael
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe PCGS would say this is a great example of target toning. No?image
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  • coltguscoltgus Posts: 337 ✭
    Looks a lot like a coin in the 1st PCGS book.image
    I'd rather be lucky than good.
  • goldrush00013goldrush00013 Posts: 2,478 ✭
    The toning is natural but the coin is fake. image
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Cleaned and retoned nicely but would BB at the majors...Doug >>

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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    Aint that the one from the PCGS book that was later found out to be the work of a coin doc? That's what I heard.
    Banned in 5...4...3...2...1
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    DP
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Since there appear to be a couple people who couldn't figure out what "I know the answer, but I'm smart enough to keep it to myself" was for image , yes, it's the PCGS graded PR69 that is a plate coin in their grading guide.

    There is a persistent rumor that the coin is the work of a talented doctor out of the Chicago area. I actually asked David Hall about it last year. You can read his answer here:

    Question about the 1936 proof Buffalo featured in the PCGS grading guide.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474 ✭
    I'm no expert on toning but IMHO AT.
    Don
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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks a lot like a coin in the 1st PCGS book. >>
      It's still in the second edition!image mike
    • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Yeah Russ, but look at the date of his reply... 5,4,3,2,1,image
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    • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317 ✭
      NT, proof toning. I've seen it before, but not this nice. It almost does look like it was doctored, but who knows. If someone would sell it to me for AT price, hell, call it AT all day and all night for all I care. It's a nice coin.
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    • coltguscoltgus Posts: 337 ✭
      Hey Russ, that 3rd choice in the poll was for people that "know the answer", all I knew was the coin was in the 1st PCGS book, whether it is AT or not I have no idea.image
      I'd rather be lucky than good.
    • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
      Oooops...I thought we was only sposed to use <<<I know the answer, but I'm smart enough to keep it to myself.>>> if we were afraid of bannation by DH.
      Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
    • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


      << <i><<<I know the answer, but I'm smart enough to keep it to myself.>>> if we were afraid of bannation by DH. >>



      I guess that could have a dual meaning. image

      Russ, NCNE
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    • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


      << <i>There is a persistent rumor that the coin is the work of a talented doctor out of the Chicago area. >>

      it's not a rumor! however, the coin doctor in question is not who some of you assume it is.

      K S
    • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
      Doctored or not, the coin is beautiful!
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    • spankyNYCspankyNYC Posts: 53
      Hi,

      Looks cool, not sure if it's AT or not ... so, what's the answer???

      Spanky
    • doopdoop Posts: 357
      you meant the product of the foremost authority on buffs from alabama i believe so.....and remember the coin
    • prooflikeprooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭
      Real all the way! No way that is AT...
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    • puffpuff Posts: 1,475
      >>>There is a persistent rumor that the coin is the work of a talented doctor out of the Chicago area. I actually asked David Hall about it last year. You can read his answer here.<<<

      Russ, I personally met this so-called coindoctor back 7 or 8 years ago at a coin show in St. Louis back when I was collecting MS Buffalo's and had almost a complete set of Buffalos in mint state 65 up, and I can tell you from a "personal" experience with this young man that he is the best of the best, and would call him an artist, not a coindoctor, when it comes to nickel coinage....

      At the time he couldn't doctor silver or copper..... Also from what I've been told he no longer does this, because he got religion, but I can't verify that this is true, but I do know for a fact that he has several Buffalo's in PCGS and NGC holders that he made......

      BTW..... This guy is one of the most engaging individuals you will ever meet.image
    • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
      So for clarification..... the buffalo could be real, or could be AT, or could be re-toned, which makes it semi-real, and DH isn't really sure if it's real or not, or if he knows, he's not saying... and if it was doctored, which may not be true, it's probably not by the guy you think it was, or could have been, although one of the culprits, who may not have done it, has since found God......
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    • TrooperTrooper Posts: 1,450 ✭
      Looks like a great coin and I really have no idea about the originality of the toning.

      Tom
    • puffpuff Posts: 1,475


      << <i>So for clarification..... the buffalo could be real, or could be AT, or could be re-toned, which makes it semi-real, and DH isn't really sure if it's real or not, or if he knows, he's not saying... and if it was doctored, which may not be true, it's probably not by the guy you think it was, or could have been, although one of the culprits, who may not have done it, has since found God......
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      To clarify this for you Myqqy, (and this is just my opinion), the coin is naturally toned..... This coin is one of the most sought after Buffalo's in existance, and having met, and known the man in question, I think if he had done this coin he would have said something to me about it, because one of the things he was proud to point out was the Buffalo's he had worked his magic on, and this coin was never mentioned to me by him.
    • ANACONDAANACONDA Posts: 4,692 ✭
      totally real
    • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭


      << <i>So for clarification..... the buffalo could be real, or could be AT, or could be re-toned, which makes it semi-real, and DH isn't really sure if it's real or not, or if he knows, he's not saying... and if it was doctored, which may not be true, it's probably not by the guy you think it was, or could have been, although one of the culprits, who may not have done it, has since found God...... >>

      no, the clarification is simply: the coin is definitely ARTIFICIALLY toned. the guy who did it freely admits it. he explained how he did with chemical vapors, but i didn't understand the process.

      K S
    • ANACONDAANACONDA Posts: 4,692 ✭
      totally real because it looks totally real and.....

      why would someone want to spend the effort to tone a 1936-P?
    • HurriKaneHurriKane Posts: 46
      why would someone want to spend the effort to tone a 1936-P?

      Because people pay stupid money for toned coins.
    • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Hey, how come I've never seen an AT MS65 Chain Cent?

      peacockcoins

    • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
      why? because the coin really is high-grade (ms-68-ish), & not every attempt to a-t succeeds. in fact, most attempts fail. you get success in like 1 out of 10 attempts, so to do this on, say a roll of 1918/7's would be incredibly stupid & expensive. haven't you noticed that most wild'n'crazy colors are in fact on commons?

      K S
    • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
      To clarify this for you Myqqy, (and this is just my opinion), the coin is naturally toned....

      no, the clarification is simply: the coin is definitely ARTIFICIALLY toned.

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      I'm glad that I was able to clarify this issue, and that others confirmed my clarity....
      My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
    • puffpuff Posts: 1,475


      << <i>To clarify this for you Myqqy, (and this is just my opinion), the coin is naturally toned....

      no, the clarification is simply: the coin is definitely ARTIFICIALLY toned.

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      I'm glad that I was able to clarify this issue, and that others confirmed my clarity.... >>



      All I gave you was my opinion...... The Dork on the otherhand gave you his opinion, which in my opinion he is full of chit!image Vapors my a$$!image
    • solidsolid Posts: 2,975
      That coin is not a high-grade common 1936-P MS coin, but rather a very
      high-grade 1936 Proof. You had better know exactly what you're doing
      before trying to AT a coin like that.

      Whether it is NT or AT, it is one beautiful piece!

      Ken
    • puffpuff Posts: 1,475


      << <i>That coin is not a high-grade common 1936-P MS coin, but rather a very
      high-grade 1936 Proof. You had better know exactly what you're doing
      before trying to AT a coin like that.

      Whether it is NT or AT, it is one beautiful piece!

      Ken >>



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    • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
      Myqqy said: So for clarification..... the buffalo could be real, or could be AT, or could be re-toned, which makes it semi-real, and DH isn't really sure if it's real or not, or if he knows, he's not saying... and if it was doctored, which may not be true, it's probably not by the guy you think it was, or could have been, although one of the culprits, who may not have done it, has since found God......




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