eBay Investigators: Do You See a Fraud in the Making Here?

braddick

AUCTION ONE:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39472&item=3919970406&rd=1

AUCTION TWO:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39472&item=3919963713&rd=1

"They" both registered the same day (today!), have the same type of photography skills and auction layout; both have the same terms and are offering the same type of coins with limited descriptions. The first Seller is from Arizona while the second Seller is from Illinois.

Smacks of some kind of highjinks to me.

cosmicdebris

coinguy1

I'm with you, Pat.

I had added those items to my watch list, only moments ago. I plan to notify the winning bidders (and under-bidders) that they should proceed with extreme caution. Of course, with the fine detectives here, I wouldn't be surprised if the sales are pulled before they are scheduled to close.

razorface1027

Their handles are alike too. The seperation between the names. Caveat emptor!

KlectorKid

Oops

poorguy

I emailed him a question about the 1907 Saint from the 1923 Saint auction. Which by the way has a picture of a 1922 Saint in the auction description. If he replies and knows about the 1907, bingo! That'l be all the proof I need not to bid. Well, and also the fact that he is using a russion name and an asian name both separated by "_" and '0' feedback.

Although, these might be real coins he is selling and doesn't want to be tracked down. Were these coins on the list for the dealer that got robbed at the the coin show last week?

alergar

The auction listing and write up looks suspicious, but at least the slabs have different registry numbers.

Hurricane

I think the Russian and Chinese Mafia has discovered E-bay

kranky

I like how the second auction has the subtitle "NOT TO BID - BAD CHOICE"

Hurricane

...and all the shipping and payment info is in the item description... "ask a question"..that's it.

jom

On the second auction I'm fairly certain I've seen that layout before. Not sure where exacly but the graphics could have been stolen from another seller.

jom

dbldie55

The images look like the ones from the bogus High Relief listing. What was the site they were stolen from? I bet you could find these images there too.

roadrunner

The NGC64 and PCGS65 hi relief saint photos were taken from Stanford Coin and Bullion (www.goantiques.com). These look
EXACTLY like the same setup. Sure smells like a scam only instead of hijacking someone's account they went back to the motherland.

roadrunner

Gemini

Their names are making me very suspicious but I have xenophobia anyway.

alergar

Both have 0 feedback rating and both joined June 5th what a coincidence !!!

ldhair

They both have 2 coins for sell.

100proof1957

jeezus !
why not just try and sell a 64 Peace Dollar !