Collecting Conder Tokens

Aethelred

Now that I have the Dalton & Hamer catalog, I can start to plan my collection of these wonderful tokens. I think my first goal will be to find one from each county in England and Wales (I'm pretty much holding off on Scotland and Ireland at this point). After that I may go in a topical direction with this collection. A person could collect people of the 18th Century, ships, buildings, the Royal family, industrial equiptment horses, any number of themes. I find myself drawn to Conders with animals and those with city scenes and may focus on those.

From what I have seen most Conders in EF-AU can be had for $30-$75 with pretty red-brown uncs going for as little as $100-125. This strikes me as a superb value as many of these tokens are superb works of art and capture the essence of the age in which they were created.

farthing

I appear to have a small collection going of tokens with museum marks

For some reason I don't find them much of a distraction, at least on tokens this old.

spinaker2000

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There might me more collectors over the hill Farthing!

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You say this, but now that they are in your mind, you will start buying them as they catch your eye. One here, one there and the next thing you know.............................

MrEureka

This strikes me as a superb value as many of these tokens are superb works of art and capture the essence of the age in which they were created.

I feel the same way about my Franklin Mint collection!

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I don't collect tokens or medals, but I have over 40 of them, how does that happen?

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Conder101

I collect the tokens, but only the ones that were actually issued by merchants to actually be used as a circulating coinage (GTT or Genuine Trade Tokens). I don't do much in the ones that were struck for sale to collectors, or to express national or political themes such as the Middlesex Spence pieces.

You will finf the one per English county challenging enough at first. I suggest you go ahead and cross Leicestershire off your list right now as you are very unlikely to get one. They were private tokens struck for a collector to be used to trade with other collectors. Mintage was: D&H 1, 21 pieces. 18 in silver 3 in tin. D&H 2, 21 pieces. 3 in silver 18 in copper. The easiest piece is a D&H 2 in copper and fewer than a dozen of the original eighteen still exist. They are in pretty strong hands and seldom come on the market.

Other tough English counties are

Berkshire
Cornwell
Cumberland
Derbyshire
Durham
Herefordshire
Hertfordshire
Monmouthshire
Northamptonshire
Oxfordshire
Rutland
Surrey
Westmoreland
Wiltshire
and Worcestershire

Of these Oxfordshire will be the easiest to find. They only made one token and the mintage is only 25,750 but it shows up fairly frequently, I have three of them.

At the other extreme are Cumberland and Derbyshire. I just got those myself and completed my one per county set. (No I don't have a Leicestershire. Thought I had one once but the dealer had misattributed it.) The most common Cumberland is D&H 1 with a mintage of 200. For Derbyshire it's D&H 3, also with a mintage of 200. The Cumberland shows up more often than the Derbyshire and usually in Unc. It should cost youbetween two and four hundred dollars. Probably closer to the four by now.

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Of these Oxfordshire will be the easiest to find. They only made one token and the mintage is only 25,750 but it shows up fairly frequently, I have three of them.

At the other extreme are Cumberland and Derbyshire. I just got those myself and completed my one per county set. (No I don't have a Leicestershire. Thought I had one once but the dealer had misattributed it.) The most common Cumberland is D&H 1 with a mintage of 200. For Derbyshire it's D&H 3, also with a mintage of 200. The Cumberland shows up more often than the Derbyshire and usually in Unc. It should cost youbetween two and four hundred dollars. Probably closer to the four by now. >>



Mike,

You'll pardon me for just focusing in on the last part of your post, but one of the things that I find so neat about Conders is that they are so affordable. When you can buy something that is over 200 years old, was produced in very limited amounts, often has very appealing designs, is avaliable in high grade and costs so little, it seems hard to go wrong. I have a feeling that one of these days people are going to catch on and the prices are going to go through the roof on these!

Conder101

That is one of the main reason I began collecting them. I like the early material and I like copper. My large cent ollection was nearing a dead end and its average condition is G-4. I had always admired the conders because of their age and condition and cost, but I had never started collecting them because I didn't have the standard reference and I was reluctant to pay the $135 for the book. I finally picked up a copy cheap in a literature auction and I have been going strong ever since. It is so nice to have early copper where I can actually see all of the fine details! I only wish I had started earlier. When I started collecting coins back in 1972, brown Unc conder tokens were $2 each. Mint red Uncs were $3. And I was wasting my time on Jefferson nickels. CIRCULATED Jefferson Nickels!

And I think people are starting to notice these unfortunately. When I started Conders seriously in 1997 Red-Brown Uncs were running around $20 - $25, XF-AU's were $12 - $15 VF's were $8. So they have about tripled in the past seven years.

MSD61

I will not collect tokens nor birds either