How reliable is NTC?

satootoko

Is a Numistrust MS63 world coin an MS63 world coin?

Placid

Maybe, maybe not. Buy the coin not the holder.
If you can't grade it yourself don't trust that NTC is right.

satootoko

<< <i>Maybe, maybe not. Buy the coin not the holder. If you can't grade it yourself don't trust that NTC is right. >>

Wonderful truisms, that don't help when the coin is in another state and personal grading has to depend on photos of the slabbed coin.

If the coin can be purchased for 70-80% of its value in the claimed grade, and the slab is that of a respected company, such as our gracious hosts or the folks across the street, buying is a no brainer.

On the other hand, at the same price, but in the slab of a company we don't mention in polite company, not buying is a no brainer.

I guess what I'm really asking is whether NTC's reputation is more like PCGS/NGC or more like The Unmentionable?

JamminJ

<< <i>Is a Numistrust MS63 world coin an MS63 world coin? >>



Quite unlikely for this bottom feeder service. Buy only if viewing the coin in person with a skeptical eye.

-JamminJ

lordmarcovan

<< <i>How reliable is NTC? >>



From what I've seen, about as reliable as a guy selling "genuine" Rolex watches for ten dollars each, from the trunk of a lime green 1971 Cadillac with furry dice on the rearview mirror, while parked outside a strip joint at 2:00 in the morning.

JamminJ

<< <i>From what I've seen, about as reliable as a guy selling "genuine" Rolex watches for ten dollars each, from the trunk of a lime green 1971 Cadillac with furry dice on the rearview mirror, while parked outside a strip joint at 2:00 in the morning. >>



I take it you like NTC?

-JamminJ

lordmarcovan

Well, it IS a little after 2:00 in the morning here...

Psst! Anybody want a Rolex watch? It has a genuine quartz movement!

Placid

The Unmentionable. You can view the coin in person as long as the seller offers to accept a return for any reason.
If not treat it as you would any raw coin on the internet.

JamminJ

<< <i>Psst! Anybody want a Rolex watch? It has a genuine quartz movement! >>



A buddy of mine bought a fake Rolex from a streetcorner vendor in New York City fro $10. He loved to show it off so everyone could tell him "That's fake!" Duh!

-JamminJ

theboz11

just like EVERY grading service,,,, some grades you will agree with and some you won't. Always LOOK at the coin closely and make your own judgement,,,, If you like it and fear the valuation because of the plastic that surrounds it,,, BREAK it out like several people here do. The best advice has already been given,,, whether it is PCGS OR AGC,,,BUY the coin and NOT the plastic,,, if you are not good enough at grading that particular type of coin,,start studying

satootoko

<< <i>about as reliable as a guy selling "genuine" Rolex watches for ten dollars each, from the trunk of a lime green 1971 Cadillac with furry dice on the rearview mirror, while parked outside a strip joint at 2:00 in the morning. >>

That's the kind of clear-cut, hard information I was looking for. Thanks LordM.

shirohniichan

I take it they are like a broken clock. No wonder they have the name New Mistrust.

Aethelred

NTC is perhaps even less reliable than ACG!

PCBUM

I don't buy NTC or ACG...........

wybrit

I've never heard of them. I wouldn't buy a coin in an unknown TPG slab unless I viewed it in person prior to making the deal. If the coin was known to be frequently faked I wouldn't buy it even in person.

XpipedreamR

I'll state my point very concisely...



NTC blows

bosox

Okay, what do you guys think of ICG. I haven't bought any graded by them because I am more than skeptical. I see Ebay full of Canadian stuff graded by them as MS-65, MS-66, "Finest Graded" where I know that only a very small handfull of accurately graded coins that nice exist, plus the photos look like these coins are overgraded by two grades.

Is my skepticism warranted, or am I wrong about these guys?

XpipedreamR

ICG throws around MS65+ grades like I sprinkle salt on popcorn.

farthing

As far as ICG goes, I guess it depends on the series. I really like their grading of Bust Halves and I have several Morgan Dollars that are spot on. I've never ventured into their Canadian grading though.

PCBUM

I don't buy ICG neither, only NGC or PCGS.........